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    Is it really slow playiong top pair top kicker.....i mean its a good hand on the flop obviosly....Preflop its not a made hand always remember that....so you preflop play was great.....on the flop u have the 7th nut hand....which in holdem is usuallt pretty good.....only AA Aj A4 44 jj and j4 have you beat....now look at hands he could possibly have been raising with AA JJ and AJ the 44 hes prolly limping j4 shouldn't be in pot and the A4 prolly a limp or fold preflop......so now you think u prolly have the 4th best possible hand....and you claim, he was splashing in the first 5-6 hands so hes a very active player so he prolly doesn't have any of those 3 hands that beat you.

    So now after a flop of AJ4 you should prolly have check raised the flop and take it down right there....if you think about it you still only have one pair.

    But since you opted to just call the Q fell on the turn....this adds to hand that could have you beat....such as AQ QQ and QJ suited and K 10 suited....possible hands he would raise with preflop....so now you deff either need to checkshove....or check fold your hand...yoo cannot let anotehr card come off the deck and add possible hands that beat you...but again you opted to check call and give him his set...which lost you the tourny.....take small pots when u can....don't trap unless you flop the nuts or close to it....AK i feel is not a trapping hand unless you flop the nut flush a boat or broadway with it....maybe even sometimes top 2...but not just one pair.......

    So i hence don't try to slow play only top pair...unless its only for one street...even though in this case the guy hit a 2 outer on you unlucky...gl next time..hope i helped

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    Quote Originally Posted by esmordan View Post
    Is it really slow playiong top pair top kicker.....i mean its a good hand on the flop obviosly....Preflop its not a made hand always remember that....so you preflop play was great.....on the flop u have the 7th nut hand....which in holdem is usuallt pretty good.....only AA Aj A4 44 jj and j4 have you beat....now look at hands he could possibly have been raising with AA JJ and AJ the 44 hes prolly limping j4 shouldn't be in pot and the A4 prolly a limp or fold preflop......so now you think u prolly have the 4th best possible hand....and you claim, he was splashing in the first 5-6 hands so hes a very active player so he prolly doesn't have any of those 3 hands that beat you.

    So now after a flop of AJ4 you should prolly have check raised the flop and take it down right there....if you think about it you still only have one pair.

    But since you opted to just call the Q fell on the turn....this adds to hand that could have you beat....such as AQ QQ and QJ suited and K 10 suited....possible hands he would raise with preflop....so now you deff either need to checkshove....or check fold your hand...yoo cannot let anotehr card come off the deck and add possible hands that beat you...but again you opted to check call and give him his set...which lost you the tourny.....take small pots when u can....don't trap unless you flop the nuts or close to it....AK i feel is not a trapping hand unless you flop the nut flush a boat or broadway with it....maybe even sometimes top 2...but not just one pair.......

    So i hence don't try to slow play only top pair...unless its only for one street...even though in this case the guy hit a 2 outer on you unlucky...gl next time..hope i helped
    That is an excellent post and very correct. I think a big raise on the flop will pick up the pot and allow you to continue to play the tournament. I'm not a fan of the slow play with anything less than a set or better. I usually only let a set get to the turn before I start pushing hard. If the board isn't very nice for my set I will push hard on the flop. You have to know EXACTLY where your opponent is if you want to slow play something other than the absolute nuts.

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