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    Default Slow playing can kill you sometimes.

    i didnt get a screen shot of the hand but found it in my hand history. feel free to deduct any chips for posting the hand. anyways here is the hand

    Hand#191655AED3000323 - PPA Petition $3500 Freeroll T5615315 -- Table 15 -- $0/$15/$30 NL Hold'em -- 2009/07/04 - 15:10:17
    Seat 1: basi***1 ($2,595 in chips) DEALER
    Seat 2: pyle***2 ($1,600 in chips)
    Seat 3: targetguywho ($1,360 in chips)
    Seat 4: Poke***4 ($1,550 in chips)
    Seat 5: tsol***5 ($1,370 in chips)
    Seat 7: onet***7 ($1,380 in chips)
    Seat 9: karz***9 ($1,450 in chips)
    Seat 10: drak***10 ($2,225 in chips)
    targetguywho: posts small blind 15
    Poke***4: posts big blind 30
    Dealt to targetguywho [Ks,Ah]
    tsol***5: calls 30
    St.***6: folds
    onet***7: folds
    karz***9: folds
    drak***10: raises to 135
    basi***1: folds
    pyle***2: folds
    targetguywho: calls 120
    Poke***4: folds
    tsol***5: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4c,As,Jd]
    targetguywho: checks
    drak***10: bets 330
    targetguywho: calls 330
    *** TURN *** [Qc]
    targetguywho: checks
    drak***10: checks
    *** RIVER *** [9c]
    targetguywho: bets 495
    drak***10: raises to 990
    targetguywho: is all in 400.0000
    drak***10: returns uncalled bet 95
    ***SHOW DOWN***
    drak***10: shows [9s 9d] (Three of a Kind, Nines )
    targetguywho: mucks
    drak***10: wins 2,780 with Three of a Kind, Nines
    targetguywho: mucks [ Ks, Ah ] (Pair)
    targetguywho finished 241 out of 263 players.


    alright drak as been playing very aggressive and loose since the start. he got lucky a few hands and won some small pots to chip up early. this was about the 5th or 6th hand. i like my preflop call could of raise but i feel just a call is good here but after that i feel i did every thing wrong in this hand. i feel a check raise after the flop would of took this pot down for me if not if i bet the turn then this hand is over and i scoop the pot but me trying to get the most out of this guy i wait til the river to bet and he hit his set and i knew it once i was reraised for my last 400 chips. i made the call due to pot odds and hoping maybe he had a weak ace. if you were me how would you played this hand. please feel free to post anything and everything i can take any positive or negitive feedback. this is only going to make me better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by targetguy1 View Post
    i didnt get a screen shot of the hand but found it in my hand history. feel free to deduct any chips for posting the hand. anyways here is the hand

    Hand#191655AED3000323 - PPA Petition $3500 Freeroll T5615315 -- Table 15 -- $0/$15/$30 NL Hold'em -- 2009/07/04 - 15:10:17
    Seat 1: basi***1 ($2,595 in chips) DEALER
    Seat 2: pyle***2 ($1,600 in chips)
    Seat 3: targetguywho ($1,360 in chips)
    Seat 4: Poke***4 ($1,550 in chips)
    Seat 5: tsol***5 ($1,370 in chips)
    Seat 7: onet***7 ($1,380 in chips)
    Seat 9: karz***9 ($1,450 in chips)
    Seat 10: drak***10 ($2,225 in chips)
    targetguywho: posts small blind 15
    Poke***4: posts big blind 30
    Dealt to targetguywho [Ks,Ah]
    tsol***5: calls 30
    St.***6: folds
    onet***7: folds
    karz***9: folds
    drak***10: raises to 135
    basi***1: folds
    pyle***2: folds
    targetguywho: calls 120
    Poke***4: folds
    tsol***5: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4c,As,Jd]
    targetguywho: checks
    drak***10: bets 330
    targetguywho: calls 330
    *** TURN *** [Qc]
    targetguywho: checks
    drak***10: checks
    *** RIVER *** [9c]
    targetguywho: bets 495
    drak***10: raises to 990
    targetguywho: is all in 400.0000
    drak***10: returns uncalled bet 95
    ***SHOW DOWN***
    drak***10: shows [9s 9d] (Three of a Kind, Nines )
    targetguywho: mucks
    drak***10: wins 2,780 with Three of a Kind, Nines
    targetguywho: mucks [ Ks, Ah ] (Pair)
    targetguywho finished 241 out of 263 players.


    alright drak as been playing very aggressive and loose since the start. he got lucky a few hands and won some small pots to chip up early. this was about the 5th or 6th hand. i like my preflop call could of raise but i feel just a call is good here but after that i feel i did every thing wrong in this hand. i feel a check raise after the flop would of took this pot down for me if not if i bet the turn then this hand is over and i scoop the pot but me trying to get the most out of this guy i wait til the river to bet and he hit his set and i knew it once i was reraised for my last 400 chips. i made the call due to pot odds and hoping maybe he had a weak ace. if you were me how would you played this hand. please feel free to post anything and everything i can take any positive or negitive feedback. this is only going to make me better.
    U should have used all raise/called chips to bet only on the flop i think.
    "feel free to deduct any chips for posting the hand"....lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by navuta View Post
    U should have used all raise/called chips to bet only on the flop i think.
    "feel free to deduct any chips for posting the hand"....lol....

    i didnt post that to be a smart a$$ or funny. i just dont want to here anyone complain cuz i made extra chips posting a hand instead of a screen shot. to be honest i think about posting this hand here until after the fact and i closed down the cake software. i am just posting a hand i feel is one of my biggest mistakes i make in poker and it kills me sometimes cuz i do it over and over. i beat myself more then people beat me.

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    well at least u post a hand not like navuta. lol well it was a slow play that killed u. but from what u say i think that guy would have called no matter when u went all in. more unlucky then bad play.

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    You have to have game to slow play effictively.

    I don't have it.

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    I have several thougs, robviously!

    1 - Posting hands is 100x better than a screenshot. I believe this will never get a chip deduction, as long as its an actual hand with a point.

    2 - Please dont post screenshots!

    3 - I like preflop, it disguises your hand somewhat. In this kind of game id have just pushed, if he is donking he will call you, and id assume to be ahead 50% of the time, or racing 49% of the time. So i prefer a push, but i like the call too.

    4 - Good flop! Good check/call here, seems standard.

    5 - As for the turn, i bet the turn, for somewhere small, try and get him to bluff reraise, or call some chips into the pot with a weaker hand to make him more pot commited ont he river.

    6 - As for the river, a lover kickers Ace can have paired now with 4 cards. On this kind of river, as played, id just push it.



    The slow play killed you, but it was a good play. I think you should bet the turn tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloBug View Post
    well at least u post a hand not like navuta. lol well it was a slow play that killed u. but from what u say i think that guy would have called no matter when u went all in. more unlucky then bad play.
    yes a little unlucky but in my eyes more of a bad play. these type of plays that can make or break you in a tourny but at the same time you live and learn from mistakes and move forward. to ones who dont move forward are the one who fail the fix the holes in their game. i will try to post more hand later on when i see one i think would be good to talk about. i think eejit would love to comment on my play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by targetguy1 View Post
    yes a little unlucky but in my eyes more of a bad play. these type of plays that can make or break you in a tourny but at the same time you live and learn from mistakes and move forward. to ones who dont move forward are the one who fail the fix the holes in their game. i will try to post more hand later on when i see one i think would be good to talk about. i think eejit would love to comment on my play.
    i agree bad play on your part but he wasnt going anywhere. make or break he was following it all in.

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