Apparently profit sharing = collusion

[PANAMHIEST]

I dont think think there is anything wrong with folding a good hand out of respect to a friend. Who wants to knocked their friends out? Now when we have our private games ya we are after each other like wild dogs, but thats what those are for, crazy competition amongst friends. When your playing against a table full of who evers and you run across a friend your not gonna try and take the friend out your gonna try and get everyone else. So if it is fulltilts policy that you cant have a poker crew or friends, that will do LL, profit sharing and loans/staking well then... that isnt cool at all.

[klinkman]

I dont think think there is anything wrong with folding a good hand out of respect to a friend. Who wants to knocked their friends out? Now when we have our private games ya we are after each other like wild dogs, but thats what those are for, crazy competition amongst friends. When your playing against a table full of who evers and you run across a friend your not gonna try and take the friend out your gonna try and get everyone else. So if it is fulltilts policy that you cant have a poker crew or friends, that will do LL, profit sharing and loans/staking well then... that isnt cool at all.

And unwittingly, you have clearly revealed the problem the site has. Softplaying, where you don't play your friends as hard as you do the others at the table, is a form of collusion and is prohibited by the terms of service at all major sites. When you play lots of games with someone, and you transfer funds back and forth to one another when one makes a score in a tournament, and then you make a questionable fold to your friend in the end stage of a sit and go, alarm bells trigger!

Now, one hand does not a compelling case make. And I clearly believe that they weren't even planning to softplay each other, Targetguy just made a bad fold and timed out once. I can't imagine a timed out hand proving anything, especially with someone who has a tendency to time out randomly, due to interruptions, bad connection, etc. The AK hand looks incriminating, as any resonably competent player would tell you that AK is well ahead of even the tightest player's shoving range 3 handed in the endgame of a sit n go, and therefore should be an instant call, even with the matrix pool dynamic in play. But I've misclick folded in similar instances as I'm sure everyone has, and therefore much more of a case needs to be built before banning someone and confiscating their funds.

Targetguy told me that there were many times where they busted each other on the bubble. Indeed if there are, those would seem to exonerate them, even in the eyes of site. When 2 people clash on the bubble of a sit n go, much of their combined equity goes to the other players at the table. Two colluding players would avoid clashing at all costs, which is what I'm sure the AK hand looks like.

[TerpZone]

So if it is fulltilts policy that you cant have a poker crew or friends, that will do LL, profit sharing and loans/staking well then... that isnt cool at all.

This is all allowed in the WSOP tour. I can't see how it wouldn't be allowed online.

[TerpZone]

lmao...stay classy, FTP:

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[targetguy1]

lmao...stay classy, FTP:

what a slap in the face that it. yeah we closed ur account and took ur money and by the way today we approved ur rakeback for the past week. what a joke

[TerpZone]

lol we approved a transfer so we could steal someone else's money, too!

[targetguy1]

its not much but it sad when a affiliate loses out on the money also. dont understand why FTP would transfer affiliate money to a banned account.