How should I have played this hand?

[navuta]

A 4 here would save my life.
The blinds were very bid already...
Not many options...
Did I play the hand wrong?

[eejit101]

Thats so bad i cant begin to describe it.

Prflop - push or fold.

Flop - WTF are you doing? Its a gutshot. Fold out, or bluff it.

But this is either a preflop raise/push, or a fold.

Argh!

[Sassy12U]

Yea you should have been out of the hand post flop.
I'm not sure why you called his bet on the flop after checking.I can understand if you were trying to pick up a hand but you needed runners to get a straight or to hit an Ace.

On the flop
you had to assume that even if you called and hit your Ace
on the turn, you might not be good. He could have easily had two pair there I think.

Best action would be to muck on the flop. Even though the blinds were high, it would be better to wait for another hand then to call away with nothing.

[navuta]

Thats so bad i cant begin to describe it.

Prflop - push or fold.

Flop - WTF are you doing? Its a gutshot. Fold out, or bluff it.

But this is either a preflop raise/push, or a fold.

Argh!

Very true... I played very bad...
I should have pushed him to death...
I mean... a 76 would not go to a 4x bb raise... But I had not many chips to try this move.. Anyway.. you are right.. Thanks for the advise.

[JoeShowdown]

I would go allin preflop and make them decide what to do. You would love to see them call when they are dominated by your ace6 until the board hits your opponent.

[CreamSoda]

A 4 here would save my life.
The blinds were very bid already...
Not many options...
Did I play the hand wrong?

Impossible to say without knowing chip stacks. If youre short push, if you have a decent size stack in relation to blinds it's a different story.

[GloBug]

personally i would have folded. i dont know if i would have pushed preflop due to me not actually playing and seeing how he plays hands. u should have folded. its not worth the risk with how hight the blinds were. u need to read the plkayers b4 u play. i would have played if it was maybe a suited A9 or higher. but i would have raised at least 3 times the BB.

[CreamSoda]

personally i would have folded. i dont know if i would have pushed preflop due to me not actually playing and seeing how he plays hands. u should have folded. its not worth the risk with how hight the blinds were. u need to read the plkayers b4 u play. i would have played if it was maybe a suited A9 or higher. but i would have raised at least 3 times the BB.

How do you know how high the blinds are if you dont know what size his stack it? Am I missing something obvious where he posted this info?

[CreamSoda]

To clarify, I mean how high they are in relation to his stack, which is really what matters.

[navuta]

To clarify, I mean how high they are in relation to his stack, which is really what matters.

I think I had 40.000 chips and him a little less, around 25.000 chips.

Thats another statment that I should Have raised to 16.000 preflop.
Or just fold it.

But i think folding at that stage, having a much better hand would do the job.
But whasnt on this case.

[CreamSoda]

I think I had 40.000 chips and him a little less, around 25.000 chips.

Thats another statment that I should Have raised to 16.000 preflop.
Or just fold it.

But i think folding at that stage, having a much better hand would do the job.
But whasnt on this case.

I disagree about raising to 16k...whats the point? You can't fold to a reraise all in. By not shoving your just tempting someone into thinking they have a chance at restealing, and ultimately decreasing your chances oftaking down the pot pre. Def shove or fold imo.

[GloBug]

To clarify, I mean how high they are in relation to his stack, which is really what matters.

well did u see where he posted the pic of the hand. he attached it and it tells u what the blinds are. as for knowing what his stack was vs the other guy i thought navuta had more because he wasnt booted for losing hand. if u read back i wasnt sure what the guy had or how he played. this is just the way i would have played. u got any more questions.

[kingsnthahole]

everytime i read a post from this shmuck, you tell him how bad of a play he made and he just doesnt grasp the proper way to play poker, u do know that this person is just doing this to get chips to use not because he actually gives a crap about what you think...its the same thing every time i sign on to ndn, one dumb post from this person after another...think about it people!!!

[GloBug]

I disagree about raising to 16k...whats the point? You can't fold to a reraise all in. By not shoving your just tempting someone into thinking they have a chance at restealing, and ultimately decreasing your chances oftaking down the pot pre. Def shove or fold imo.

well if u knew how he played he would have commited himself regardless. we are trying to help him to avoid those kinds of hands. do u really think that guy would go all in with 76. i dont think so. he was on blind so he got free card. thats all. look at his betting patterns he never pushed he just bet. he did bet 8k on flop but he thought he was stronger which he was. it was just a bad hand to just call the flop. its either raise or fold hand. simple as that.

[GloBug]

everytime i read a post from this shmuck, you tell him how bad of a play he made and he just doesnt grasp the proper way to play poker, u do know that this person is just doing this to get chips to use not because he actually gives a crap about what you think...its the same thing every time i sign on to ndn, one dumb post from this person after another...think about it people!!!

well we all know it but we ares till here to help. it is not up to is to judge him. we can only speak our minds. ndn is the judge. trust me he is aware. he played a garbage hand and shouldnt have been in the hand but its all good. i am 1000% with u kings. and creamsode u havent been here long enough to know it. lol

[navuta]

everytime i read a post from this shmuck, you tell him how bad of a play he made and he just doesnt grasp the proper way to play poker, u do know that this person is just doing this to get chips to use not because he actually gives a crap about what you think...its the same thing every time i sign on to ndn, one dumb post from this person after another...think about it people!!!

I dont think u are trying to be nice here.
It is not because I dont know how to play poker that Im not welcome here..
Im very upset to know that.
Im here to learn, if u dont belive dont waste your time posting about my hands!

[GloBug]

I dont think u are trying to be nice here.
It is not because I dont know how to play poker that Im not welcome here..
Im very upset to know that.
Im here to learn, if u dont belive dont waste your time posting about my hands!

navuta. u need to read his post better. he is just saying that u post these hands and we give u help and u never listen. i am starting to agree with them that u dont want help u just want to post to get chips. all your threads that u make about losing is the same one after another. and well all give u the same adive then u will post that ok i will listen then u post another thread about losing again. u know people and there thoughts of u wear thin when it is repeatedly done. u got to understand that. there has been many replys to your posts about how u dont listen and that u are here to just get chips. u know if lot people are feeling this way maybe its no them and it is u. i really like u as a member but i am having doubts as to why u are a member. i mean u have benn here for just a little over a month and your about to hit 1k in posts. i can guarantee that 5% of your posts actually help poeple or make them laugh or isnt spam. i have benn amember for like 3 years and i have like 2300 posts. do u see the difference. i know i am not a angel but i do try to help when i can. be more aware of what u are posting. like i said before its no the quantity its the quality of posts. oh and one more thing quit saying u arent wanted by us. u are making yourself not wanted. now thats some advice u need to listen to.

[navuta]

navuta. u need to read his post better. he is just saying that u post these hands and we give u help and u never listen. i am starting to agree with them that u dont want help u just want to post to get chips. all your threads that u make about losing is the same one after another. and well all give u the same adive then u will post that ok i will listen then u post another thread about losing again. u know people and there thoughts of u wear thin when it is repeatedly done. u got to understand that. there has been many replys to your posts about how u dont listen and that u are here to just get chips. u know if lot people are feeling this way maybe its no them and it is u. i really like u as a member but i am having doubts as to why u are a member. i mean u have benn here for just a little over a month and your about to hit 1k in posts. i can guarantee that 5% of your posts actually help poeple or make them laugh or isnt spam. i have benn amember for like 3 years and i have like 2300 posts. do u see the difference. i know i am not a angel but i do try to help when i can. be more aware of what u are posting. like i said before its no the quantity its the quality of posts. oh and one more thing quit saying u arent wanted by us. u are making yourself not wanted. now thats some advice u need to listen to.

Hey.. I promise u so much that I read every and each post writen here, I have spent almost 4 to 6 hours per day here, leaning, and making friends. The problem is, do u think that I will lean poker in one week? If i cant win, is not the forum problem, it is my problem. After these conflicts I know for sure I will never post a loss here again , or any other stupid hand (as u think it is)... And it is not true people dont like me... Im felling that the "Pros" here dont whant me to win any chips, or anything else. I think this is unfair., and I dont play poker like the "pros". I dont see the point of critizing someone just because u dont like what he writes.
Or do u expect me to listen to few advises and become a pro the next hand i play? I just dont get u guys. I really fell that im not welcome to post my experiences about poker here. I think I will stick on my methabolic spice sense of humor and thats all. I and have lots of post because I have lots of answers to my treads.

[GloBug]

Hey.. I promise u so much that I read every and each post writen here, I have spent almost 4 to 6 hours per day here, leaning, and making friends. The problem is, do u think that I will lean poker in one week? If i cant win, is not the forum problem, it is my problem. After these conflicts I know for sure I winn never post a loss here again , or any other stupid hand (as u think it is)... And it is not true people dont like me... Im felling that the "Pros" here dont whant me to win any chips, or anything else. I think this is unfair. Since Im not a woman, and I dont play poker like the "pros". I dont see the point of critizing someone just because u dont like what he writes.
Or do u expect me to listen to a bunch of advise and become a pro the next hand i play? I just dont get u guys. I really fell that im not welcome to post my experiences about poker here. I think I will stike on my methabolic spice sense of humor and thats all. I and have lots of post because I have lots of answers to my treads.

well illt ell u this there arent many pros here. we are a community that is here for hel and for tips. no one say u will learn poker in a week but u still dont listen to us. i think u have frustrated a bunch of us due to ur lack of wanting to learn. u posted a thread about pot odds that was completely wrong. no one said your post were stupid they just arent good. and yes u do get replies. there isnt a thread started here that doesnt get a reply. and as for u not being a women what does that have to do with it. thats way off base. n one here expects u to be a pro overnight but we do expect u to get better which isnt happenening because u keep posting the same losses. well anyways its noy us not wanting u as a member its you making yourself not welcome. this is the way i feel. i know there are tohers. so i will leave it at that. ndn if u see this tell me if i am WRONG and i will leave it alone. navuta i told u liked u and i have said i dont like the things u post. noithing persoanll so quit saying i am not wanted here and that crap. no one here has said u werent wanted. get over yourself.

[navuta]

well illt ell u this there arent many pros here. we are a community that is here for hel and for tips. no one say u will learn poker in a week but u still dont listen to us. i think u have frustrated a bunch of us due to ur lack of wanting to learn. u posted a thread about pot odds that was completely wrong. no one said your post were stupid they just arent good. and yes u do get replies. there isnt a thread started here that doesnt get a reply. and as for u not being a women what does that have to do with it. thats way off base. n one here expects u to be a pro overnight but we do expect u to get better which isnt happenening because u keep posting the same losses. well anyways its noy us not wanting u as a member its you making yourself not welcome. this is the way i feel. i know there are tohers. so i will leave it at that. ndn if u see this tell me if i am WRONG and i will leave it alone. navuta i told u liked u and i have said i dont like the things u post. noithing persoanll so quit saying i am not wanted here and that crap. no one here has said u werent wanted. get over yourself.

I hope that I can prove that im learning from u guys soon.

[GloBug]

I hope that I can prove that im learning from u guys soon.

i hope u can too. now im done and we can start on a new slate. hi navuta im glo bug nice to meet ya. enjoy th forum and we have great advice for ya. lol

[CreamSoda]

well did u see where he posted the pic of the hand. he attached it and it tells u what the blinds are. as for knowing what his stack was vs the other guy i thought navuta had more because he wasnt booted for losing hand. if u read back i wasnt sure what the guy had or how he played. this is just the way i would have played. u got any more questions.

1- Yes, I saw the pic of the hand, and I saw the blind level.

2- He very well could of had more chips, and he very well could of had less...

3- I don't understand how you know how you would play If you don't know how many chips you have....this is a very importantant factor. Maybe youre just kidding?

4- No, I don't have any more questions. OP answered them.

[eejit101]

Cant you all be a bit nicer

Nah. The hand was shocking, but i disagree with goig off topic into other things tho.

[navuta]

i hope u can too. now im done and we can start on a new slate. hi navuta im glo bug nice to meet ya. enjoy th forum and we have great advice for ya. lol

hum.. when people here will be serious?
Somehow I like the provocations, but what I think people are trying to understand is:

If u care about the tread subject on the forum u will have fun reading and answering it, to the subject (iven if it is some newbie) and if someone comes saying something out of sense you will probably ignore than, so, I think that if somebody fells that it cant help much, is better to that person finds the treads he enjoys. I think to objective for the forum is the learning process. And there will be all kinds of people possible here. I guess that there are a lot of space here on the forum for everybody to chat.
I dont see the point of arguing just for the point of arguening..
So, lets head straight to the point, ( I think the quality posts are the ones that people shares theirs fellings and impressions, share what they think, what they fell, how the world look for then) Thats why small posts normaly are not quality posts, because when u really whant to say something, you have to take your time to explaing. lets share our toughts and lets be free.
I think all this provocations makes me a better player, iven if I have to look like a newbie donkey.