House player

[GloBug]

ok i got a legitemate question. is there house players on carbon.i have good feeling ther eis because most sites do. because i played like 5 tourneys today all 1k-3k gtd R/A tourneys./ and i lost to the same person either near or on the bubble like 3 times. his name is imamark. and then there was mark888 that took me out in another. i would have like say for instance KK and raise all in with it. blinds are hight like 1500 and i would have like 15 in chips left. he would call with a god awful hand of J8. i flop trips then lose to a str8 on river. i swear it was like i was being set up. too much of a coincedence not to think. so then i take notes on them and poof the notes disappeared. iit was really frustrating. then i had carbon freeze on me when i was playiing in the 250 gtd with 3 rebuys and 1 addon. there were 13 people left and by the time i was able to get back on i was doomed and i went out 12th. i had 16 k in chips and got booted. i dont know if all of this relevant but it makes wonder if want to be playing anymore there. i have never had carbon freeze like that till today after i got my *** kicked all day by those 2 house players. how do my notes on them disappear. u know i have heard of this on other sites such as poker4ever.com and there was a big problem. i read that a forum did some research and plkayed at some high stakes tables that no one plays at. it was 3 of them that sat down and then 2 players show up that they have never seen b4. the forum had been running tourneys there and playing cash games there and never seen the 2 players that sat doen. well they played and noticed that pots were getting fat for rake and the 2 players would always win. well they confronted poker4ever.com about it and of course they denied it and canceled the forum players accts. call it coincedence. well i thought at 1st it had to be. well the forum players started new accts with different ip and all that and it happneed again. same 2 players show up and rake is going up and the forum players get wiped again. well they try again to confront again and they get banned again. pulled all there tourneys for there players. can someone tell me if they have experienced this. it was just really weird today. pots got fat on cash games for rake then i would lose to some idiot. ill give uone for instance. i am on a .10/.25 ring game and i got AQ well i raise to like 1.25 and get 2 callers. flope comes Q 2 7. they check it down to me and i bet out like 2.50 and get call by one and raised by the other which i just smooth call like the other players does. so pot is getting big. well trun comes another Q. so bet out 10.00 one calls the other raises me all in and then the guy that calls folds (keep in mind this it the guy that riased me after flop) well i go all in and he has Q3 offsuit and gues what hits on the river a fing 3. for his boat. y did the guy that reraised me after flop fold after calling my 10 bet. collusion came to mind but i dont think so. i think it due to house players raising the rake for the house and there reward was the river. maybe i am wrong but this had to be the worst day ever in tourney and cash games. i blew my load today. just cant believe how it all went down. can someone calm me down because i am about to quit at carbon. i am gonna move onto cake with ringo.

[eejit101]

Ahh where to begin, im gonna use these bullet point things i found!

• Firstly - you blew your load? How was that for ya? Not all over your cat i hope.
• Right, House players. All site have players they pay, mostly using some kind of 150% rakeback deal, that start new tables, or sit at tables with few players on, the higher limits the more common it is, as they are harder to fill. These players are playing for themselves, but the site will give them 150% or so rakeback as like a payment for being a "prop player"
• I truly believe some small sites have dodgy software. Jetset to begin with, my god i saw some huge hand on there way too often. Dunno if its true, but i used to think so.
• As for Merge. Its a network. All the hands are done through one central system, and the sites have paid $50k or so for their own skin of the network. Does this mean they have no control over the RNG for the cards? Probably. If you were on Carbon then PDC and the other sites combined with Carbon must be in on it too, and that makes it less likely as theres no way to split the profit or rake from that.
• Tourney players. Ive never had that happen to me. But as its crazy early in the morning ill assume the fields were low (as on Merge is always the way) and the same people will be playing to get their Leaderboard points. This will make it alot more likely you run into the same person in a game or two.
• For the cash game hand. This is obvious. The raiser of your flop bet had an overpair, and was good enough to fold it on the turn knowing he was beat. Or he was bluffing on the flop and knew there was no way he can get someone off trips. As for the 3 river. Its a bad beat. Meh
• As for your players name that busted you, i searched for them on Sharkscope and another site, and they dont exist. Or have never played a game. You sure you got the names right?
• Finally, allt he work and stuff i put into this, if i dont get 55 thanks and 1million +reps, im quitting!

[freeringo]

Run for the hills

Imamark and mark888 sound way to fishy to me.

But you are winning, so in the long run it won't affect you
like it does the fish they are looking for.

[GloBug]

well eejit like i said when i made notes of them they disappeared soon after. not sure if that affects sharkscope. it was way to fishy to not noitce. what a bad night it was yesterday. as for my load no it went all over my monitor.thanks eejit and u did get rep points. dont know how to give u a million but u got some.

[freeringo]

well eejit like i said when i made notes of them they disappeared soon after. not sure if that affects sharkscope. it was way to fishy to not noitce. what a bad night it was yesterday. as for my load no it went all over my monitor.thanks eejit and u did get rep points. dont know how to give u a million but u got some.

You can give rep points?

Never mind I don't need to know till I get my PM from NDN

[GloBug]

Run for the hills

Imamark and mark888 sound way to fishy to me.

But you are winning, so in the long run it won't affect you
like it does the fish they are looking for.

well it wont affect me in the long run if they dont sit at my tables. it was really weird l;ast night. never had it so bad. on all tourneys and cash games. i should have walked from cash games because i took a beating. took me too long to put 1 and 1 together. the tourneys were just odd. i was getting sucked out like crazy. i would have Top Pair top kicker vs top pair no kicker(like a 2) and lose to a 2 on the river. happened way to much to let it go.

[freeringo]

well it wont affect me in the long run if they dont sit at my tables. it was really weird l;ast night. never had it so bad. on all tourneys and cash games. i should have walked from cash games because i took a beating. took me too long to put 1 and 1 together. the tourneys were just odd. i was getting sucked out like crazy. i would have Top Pair top kicker vs top pair no kicker(like a 2) and lose to a 2 on the river. happened way to much to let it go.

Shame on you

I never play cash games. Too much at risk every hand.

It's good to have free money though to fool around with.

[GloBug]

You can give rep points?

Never mind I don't need to know till I get my PM from NDN

take a look at the thread u started about rep points, eejit explained how to do it.

[eejit101]

At least someone noticed!

CLICK THE DAMN SCALES RINGO! THE SCALLEEEESSSSSSSSs

[sand]

ok i got a legitemate question. is there house players on carbon.i have good feeling ther eis because most sites do. because i played like 5 tourneys today all 1k-3k gtd R/A tourneys./ and i lost to the same person either near or on the bubble like 3 times. his name is imamark. and then there was mark888 that took me out in another. i would have like say for instance KK and raise all in with it. blinds are hight like 1500 and i would have like 15 in chips left. he would call with a god awful hand of J8. i flop trips then lose to a str8 on river. i swear it was like i was being set up. too much of a coincedence not to think. so then i take notes on them and poof the notes disappeared. iit was really frustrating. then i had carbon freeze on me when i was playiing in the 250 gtd with 3 rebuys and 1 addon. there were 13 people left and by the time i was able to get back on i was doomed and i went out 12th. i had 16 k in chips and got booted. i dont know if all of this relevant but it makes wonder if want to be playing anymore there. i have never had carbon freeze like that till today after i got my *** kicked all day by those 2 house players. how do my notes on them disappear. u know i have heard of this on other sites such as poker4ever.com and there was a big problem. i read that a forum did some research and plkayed at some high stakes tables that no one plays at. it was 3 of them that sat down and then 2 players show up that they have never seen b4. the forum had been running tourneys there and playing cash games there and never seen the 2 players that sat doen. well they played and noticed that pots were getting fat for rake and the 2 players would always win. well they confronted poker4ever.com about it and of course they denied it and canceled the forum players accts. call it coincedence. well i thought at 1st it had to be. well the forum players started new accts with different ip and all that and it happneed again. same 2 players show up and rake is going up and the forum players get wiped again. well they try again to confront again and they get banned again. pulled all there tourneys for there players. can someone tell me if they have experienced this. it was just really weird today. pots got fat on cash games for rake then i would lose to some idiot. ill give uone for instance. i am on a .10/.25 ring game and i got AQ well i raise to like 1.25 and get 2 callers. flope comes Q 2 7. they check it down to me and i bet out like 2.50 and get call by one and raised by the other which i just smooth call like the other players does. so pot is getting big. well trun comes another Q. so bet out 10.00 one calls the other raises me all in and then the guy that calls folds (keep in mind this it the guy that riased me after flop) well i go all in and he has Q3 offsuit and gues what hits on the river a fing 3. for his boat. y did the guy that reraised me after flop fold after calling my 10 bet. collusion came to mind but i dont think so. i think it due to house players raising the rake for the house and there reward was the river. maybe i am wrong but this had to be the worst day ever in tourney and cash games. i blew my load today. just cant believe how it all went down. can someone calm me down because i am about to quit at carbon. i am gonna move onto cake with ringo.

check "bullitpete" and "bullitmo" from carbon on sharkscope,they win everything they play no matter what crap they pull
i say its magic,watch the bigger tournies there they allways cash and its by suckout after suckout,calls that no one in their right mind would ever make,
put tourny on the line with nothing but a hope for runner runner get real,
calls postflop with, ace - king - 3 on the flop, call a all in with 6-7 offsuit needing runner runner for str8 and hit every thing they play all the time,just go see foryourself one of these times,they pull sht like that everyday all day.
its been worse since last update

[sand]

wow old thread lol
guess thats what i get for reading old stuff,theres tons of good reading here, dont blame me

[sand]

was gonna edit post but to late i guess
just wanted to add that when i add notes saying anything about house player or house this or that,they also dissapear,but all other notes stay,try it on "bullitmo" make a note on him saying fn house player, it will be gone,but make a note saying good player it will stay


bin there done that,ask 247 i tell her all the time my notes on house players always dissapear,or however you spell dissapear im sure someone cares to correct me on that lol

[targetguy1]

"bullitpete" lol i was reading this and this name came up and i played him in a

heads up cash game on carbon. i forgot the limit but it was big for carbon.

we played for about 30 min and he was just killing me. never missed. i had

to rebuy and i remeber the hand like it was yesterday. i had a7 and he had

88 flop came a7a. he bets out and i rerasie him. he calls then an 8 on the

turn. i lead out for the pot he calls and the river is the case 8 and anyways

the story goes i lose another 1.5k pot. i tried puttting the notes on him and

it wouldnt take it. it also disappeared. i dont know if its a glitch in their

software but after reading this i dont kown what to think.