Do not trust esmordan

[esmordan]

w/e i mean i will just leave the NDN site if i'm gonna get badmouthed....its cool i entered my share withdraw from the BAP and i will be gone....gl everyone....i hope everyone loves terp and belives every word from his mouth....and gl in the BAP all i hope it gets an awsome comeback with TERP leading the way...then u can all bow to his greatness

[TerpZone]

As many of you know, I gave him a stake a few weeks back and then he never bothered to get back to me concerned him playing a game.

About a week later I finally got in touch with him and he said he'd send it back.

He didn't. I sent him a few messages over the past week trying to "remind him"

This is what I got from him today:



[14:18] esmordan: omg dude if u dont get off my ball sack u won't yer yer money back
[14:18] Rich: maybe if you weren't such a scumbag about it, it wouldn't be a ****ing issue
[14:18] esmordan: i wasn't a scumbag at all
[14:19] esmordan: and now yer not getting it fu ddue
[14:19] Rich: lol i hope you don't expect to be around ndn much more then
[14:19] esmordan: for beeing a dickless asshole i'm not paying u back
[14:19] esmordan: haha for what it was an off site stake
[14:19] esmordan: has nothing to do with NDN
[14:20] Rich: we'll see
[14:20] esmordan: good luck

[GloBug]

As many of you know, I gave him a stake a few weeks back and then he never bothered to get back to me concerned him playing a game.

About a week later I finally got in touch with him and he said he'd send it back.

He didn't. I sent him a few messages over the past week trying to "remind him"

This is what I got from him today:



[14:18] esmordan: omg dude if u dont get off my ball sack u won't yer yer money back
[14:18] Rich: maybe if you weren't such a scumbag about it, it wouldn't be a ****ing issue
[14:18] esmordan: i wasn't a scumbag at all
[14:19] esmordan: and now yer not getting it fu ddue
[14:19] Rich: lol i hope you don't expect to be around ndn much more then
[14:19] esmordan: for beeing a dickless asshole i'm not paying u back
[14:19] esmordan: haha for what it was an off site stake
[14:19] esmordan: has nothing to do with NDN
[14:20] Rich: we'll see
[14:20] esmordan: good luck

well that is why i only trust a handfull of players on here. so your saying he didnt play his game and just kept your money. esmordan that snot cool just give him his money back and all with be done with this. well i know not to stake him . lol good luck terp i dont think ndn will do anything about this as it wasnt anything to do with ndn. all this will do is give esmordan a bad name. thanks for the info though.

[TerpZone]

well that is why i only trust a handfull of players on here. so your saying he didnt play his game and just kept your money. esmordan that snot cool just give him his money back and all with be done with this. well i know not to stake him . lol good luck terp i dont think ndn will do anything about this as it wasnt anything to do with ndn. all this will do is give esmordan a bad name. thanks for the info though.

I'm not the only person on here who he owes money to, apparently.

I just want people to know NOT to trust him.

[GloBug]

I'm not the only person on here who he owes money to, apparently.

I just want people to know NOT to trust him.

wow really. i thought he was a standup guy but i guess i was wrong., he was on my handfull of players i trust but i thought he was cool. it could have been worse u could have staked navuta. lol

[TerpZone]

Apparently a few people knew not to stake him, I was just late to the party.

Fortunately it wasn't for much, at least not as much as the other people.

[thenutzaa1]

ok i just want to make it clear that, i have played some bap games and lost longer games on his account and i have nothing to do about this matter. sorry for anyone who is tied up in this mess.

[esmordan]

well maybe if he included the whole convon and didn't just take snips of it i wouldn't look bad at all

1. i asked him where he would like the money back b/c i had like 1200 on cake but no money on FTP....and since he said FTP i was waiting until NDN or someone could help me switch cake money for FTP money so i could transfer temp his money and cash out
2. i have ALWAYS paid ppl back no matter how much i owe i will get some therer money it may take some time but if i ever barrowed money you would be paid back
3. terp too only parts of or aim convo and put them in his thread....aka he skipped the part wherew i told him i'd pay when i had money on FTP (which is soon)...when he didn't like my response he went on to calling my pleanty more names then i called him and treatened me with "getting kicked of NDN" and other nonsense...which this had nothing to do with NDN or the site on anyone else on here



so if anyone wants to belieive terp over me goo for it... but by this thread hes the one not to be trusted....making up lies to make anotehr NDNer look bad and threatening his availablity to NDN common i don't think thats what the site was made for.....so next time terp grow up and don't make up stupid nonsense to try to make other look bad when u were out of line here


alll in all i don't like being called a liar and other unneccisary names....when you do this i get PISSED and it makes me not want to pay you b/c ur being a jerk

And if you think i am untrustworthy ask theNUTZ i owe him more then anyone right now and hes getting paid off maybe slowly but its deff surly

[esmordan]

terp will get his money.....just don't be rude about it next time

[TerpZone]

well maybe if he included the whole convon and didn't just take snips of it i wouldn't look bad at all

1. i asked him where he would like the money back b/c i had like 1200 on cake but no money on FTP....and since he said FTP i was waiting until NDN or someone could help me switch cake money for FTP money so i could transfer temp his money and cash out
2. i have ALWAYS paid ppl back no matter how much i owe i will get some therer money it may take some time but if i ever barrowed money you would be paid back
3. terp too only parts of or aim convo and put them in his thread....aka he skipped the part wherew i told him i'd pay when i had money on FTP (which is soon)...when he didn't like my response he went on to calling my pleanty more names then i called him and treatened me with "getting kicked of NDN" and other nonsense...which this had nothing to do with NDN or the site on anyone else on here



so if anyone wants to belieive terp over me goo for it... but by this thread hes the one not to be trusted....making up lies to make anotehr NDNer look bad and threatening his availablity to NDN common i don't think thats what the site was made for.....so next time terp grow up and don't make up stupid nonsense to try to make other look bad when u were out of line here


alll in all i don't like being called a liar and other unneccisary names....when you do this i get PISSED and it makes me not want to pay you b/c ur being a jerk

And if you think i am untrustworthy ask theNUTZ i owe him more then anyone right now and hes getting paid off maybe slowly but its deff surly

LOL... you asked me if I wanted money on CAKE or FTP about a WEEK ago. I said FTP, you said fine. This is the first time I've heard from you since, even though I've messaged you a couple of times with "..." to no response, and this is the first I'm hearing of you not having money on FTP. I tried my best to not be rude and I didn't utter a single rude sentence until I was met with:

[14:18] esmordan: omg dude if u dont get off my ball sack u won't yer yer money back

That conversation is the conversation from today IN ITS ENTIRETY and unaltered. If I was capable of having all that supposed convo with you in between those unaltered timestamps, I 'd be pretty impressed with both of our typing speeds.

Quit trying to cover your own ***. You tried to act like a scumbag and withhold my money without reason other than I kept messaging you and never gettingn an update, and now you're getting called out on it. Man up.

[GloBug]

well i dont trust either of you. lol J/K.

i dont know what to think. i says just pay it back and be done with it. i dont look at anyone bad here unless your name is navuta. i hope u guys resolve this like men. as for all the bad mouthing it comes with the territory. i guess.

[nodepositneeded]

First off, I normally do not get involved with things like this because it's none of my business.

I cannot moderate disputes between other members if their issues aren't directly related to NDN because it would involve me taking the side of one of the two members without any concrete evidence about what's going on.

I always tell everyone to be cautious about stakes/loans/transfers because more often than not someone ends up getting burned. I am always available as a middle man and I encourage anyone who has doubts to contact me before doing things like this.

Since I am in a unique position to help here - I propose the following:

Esmordan - With your permission, may I "sell" a portion of your BAP shares and send that money to Terpzone to clear up this issue? I will then delete this thread once the matter is resolved.

[PANAMHIEST]

I have heard bits and pieces about this for several weeks now, included an unpaid debt to NDN for a BAP game a few weeks ago, thats why NDN site was brought in this I believe.

11 bucks and 4 bucks is not a large sum of money at all, especially with the 1200 bankroll at cake. I am not not gonna name any names or mention any conversations, but this is the reason why I didnt go through on a loan a week ago or so.

However I personally know esmo has 1200 or so bucks at cake, so this matter should be cleared up no problem.

Moral of this whole issue is when you tell someone your gonna do this and a deal is made, then stick to your word and a value of trust will form, if not this is what happens and word gets around.

[esmordan]

why should someone have to pay back a STAKE anyways.....learn the definition of a stake then talk sh it on me

[esmordan]

i also cashed out 1k on cake and lent 155 to eejit and lost the rest i have no more roll on cake

[nodepositneeded]

why should someone have to pay back a STAKE anyways.....learn the definition of a stake then talk sh it on me

This is the last I want to hear of comments like this.

[esmordan]

ImRich66 (3:30:32 PM): and that thread did enough damage to make up for you threatening to not pay
ImRich66 (3:30:38 PM): so i don't really care where this goes from here
SoccorMan18 (3:30:58 PM): ok good




exactly...he does damage to my reputation...and has no repremnd

[kingsnthahole]

do you both realize that you just wasted about 5 minutes of my life reading this rediculous thread about 11 dollars...11 DOLLARS...WHO GIVES A CRAP...how old are we? OMG 11 dollars, i can;t buy groceries this week!!!

[nodepositneeded]

Esmordan - Please read my solution above and let me know if that works for you. There is no need for this thread to continue.

[esmordan]

no that doesn't work for me....this thread has already done too much damage...i will take my BAP shares at the end of the month and be done with the site gl all

[TerpZone]

why should someone have to pay back a STAKE anyways.....learn the definition of a stake then talk sh it on me

Because I gave you a stake to play a game and YOU NEVER PLAYED that game and NEVER gave me an update as to what was going on. Then you gave me the option to let you play a game or get the money back, at which point I was fed up and wanted the money.

do you both realize that you just wasted about 5 minutes of my life reading this rediculous thread about 11 dollars...11 DOLLARS...WHO GIVES A CRAP...how old are we? OMG 11 dollars, i can;t buy groceries this week!!!

It's not the money. It's the principal.

[esmordan]

exactly i musta played a game if i didn't have the money on FTP to pay u back.......and mike its the principle that it was a STAKE and STAKEs arn't paid back

[thenutzaa1]

close this thread please.....i just listen to a perfect song for this thread

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