I scratch my head and as WTF?

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08-22-2009, 09:47 PM
ffcowboy76

I scratch my head and as WTF?

Mind you this is a $0.25 90 player on Stars, but how did he make the call preflop?

Board:
ffcowboy76 (BB): $4,505
xl_fenix_lx (UTG): $3,240
mitchz85 (UTG+1): $9,445
HARD212121 (MP1): $4,195
phocky3544 (MP2): $1,640
LEARLY (CO): $1,635
Gr8Scott1969 (Button): $4,920
BizzoJones (SB): $2,235

Dealt to ffcowboy76 K:heart: A:diamond:

Pre-flop:
xl_fenix_lx calls $50
mitchz85 calls $50
(3 folds)
Gr8Scott1969 calls $50
(1 folds)
ffcowboy76 raises to $250
xl_fenix_lx calls $200
mitchz85 calls $200
Gr8Scott1969 calls $200

Flop: ($1,075) 7:spade: A:spade: 4:heart: (4 Players)
ffcowboy76 bets $900
(1 folds)
mitchz85 raises to $9,195 and is all-in
(1 folds)
ffcowboy76 calls $3,355 and is all-in
mitchz85 returns $4,940

Turn: ($9,585) 5:heart: (2 Players)

River: ($9,585) 8:heart: (2 Players)

Results:
ffcowboy76 Showed K:heart: A:diamond:
mitchz85 Showed 7:diamond: 4:diamond:
mitchz85 wins $9,535
08-23-2009, 11:26 AM
Lilred36

pretty obvious the guys got more money than brains.
08-23-2009, 12:21 PM
PANAMHIEST

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilred36

pretty obvious the guys got more money than brains.

I agree these micro stake games have become a joke because of guys just playing way below their average buy-in mostly just for fun. they could care a less about the guys in it for the money places.
08-24-2009, 05:52 AM
eejit101

Pot odds baby!!!!!
09-01-2009, 06:37 PM
ferrengi

This guy probably has no clue. Most likely, he saw 2 suited cards and decided it was a must play. However, objectively speaking, the call is not so bad. I think the stacks are deep enough that he can call and try to hit a flop and possibly stack you (which is exactly what happened).
Putting in 200 to win the 4K in your stack is fine and with his stack, he can definitely afford to blow 200 chips on this hand.

You might want to fold on the flop after getting raised all-in. I haven't played these stakes in a while but I've gotta imagine that he wouldn't raise all-in with a hand you can beat. Maybe a flush draw but that's about all you are beating.
09-01-2009, 08:31 PM
Pokerkitty6

I scratch my head and WTF...I'm bald!!!!
09-03-2009, 06:29 PM
ffcowboy76

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrengi

This guy probably has no clue. Most likely, he saw 2 suited cards and decided it was a must play. However, objectively speaking, the call is not so bad. I think the stacks are deep enough that he can call and try to hit a flop and possibly stack you (which is exactly what happened).
Putting in 200 to win the 4K in your stack is fine and with his stack, he can definitely afford to blow 200 chips on this hand.

You might want to fold on the flop after getting raised all-in. I haven't played these stakes in a while but I've gotta imagine that he wouldn't raise all-in with a hand you can beat. Maybe a flush draw but that's about all you are beating.

At that stake there are many hands he will push with that I can beat. He could have a big pocket pair that I'm beating, he could have AQ-A5 (excluding A7) that I'm beating. I've even seen pushes with open ended straight draws at that particular level. I would like to change this off of the buy in level and see if there are any more answers or opinions about the odds of him calling vs both the pot and my stack. Anything I could of done differently to change the out come (other than the obvious fold the flop.)
09-04-2009, 12:38 PM
ferrengi

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcowboy76

At that stake there are many hands he will push with that I can beat. He could have a big pocket pair that I'm beating, he could have AQ-A5 (excluding A7) that I'm beating. I've even seen pushes with open ended straight draws at that particular level. I would like to change this off of the buy in level and see if there are any more answers or opinions about the odds of him calling vs both the pot and my stack. Anything I could of done differently to change the out come (other than the obvious fold the flop.)

I don't think you are getting raised by a weak ace or high pocket pair. Villain is either going to have a flush draw, straight draw, a stronger than one pair hand, or pair of aces, good kicker. I don't think he shows you any made hand weaker than AJ.
If you think the odds are good enough that he is making this move with a draw, you can go ahead and call.
However, we are talking about a .25 tourney!
I don't think these guys know enough to semi-bluff raise all-in with a draw.