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GloBug
04-07-2009, 01:48 PM
who hear feels it should be legal. here is brief statement from a san francisco senator trying to put this into legislation.

The story SF Weekly broke on Friday is true: Assemblyman Tom Ammiano will announce legislation on Monday to legalize marijuana and earn perhaps $1 billion annually by taxing it.

Quintin Mecke, Ammiano's press secretary, confirmed to SF Weekly that the assemblyman's 10 a.m. Monday press conference regarding "new legislation related to the state's fiscal crisis" will broach the subject of reaping untold -- and much-needed -- wealth from the state's No. 1 cash crop.

Mecke said Ammiano's proposed bill "would remove all penalties in California law on cultivation, transportation, sale, purchase, possession, or use of marijuana, natural THC, or paraphernalia for persons over the age of 21."

The bill would additionally prohibit state and local law officials from enforcing federal marijuana laws. As for Step Two -- profit -- Ammiano's bill calls for "establishing a fee on the sale of marijuana at a rate of $50 per ounce." Mecke said that would bring in roughly $1 billion for the state, according to estimates made by marijuana advocacy organizations.

i think it should pass. weed is from the earth and has no added chemicals in it like the other drugs such as cocaine. meth, heroin and others. it would be great for local and state economies. he suggests that we tax it and have like we do it for liquor and beer. i think it a is a great idea. i wont get in trouble and the state will get extra cash for taxes by legalizing it. i think there are more people that are for it then against it. and for all that are against it why dont u try it once and tell me what u think. LOL

I say vote YES for the legalization on marijuana.

knowledge
04-07-2009, 02:03 PM
personnally dont smoke but I believe it should be. I have enough problems with just drinking and walking straight

RocketManAA
04-07-2009, 02:23 PM
I think all drugs should be legal,taxed and regulated like alcohol. I think it would put most drug dealers out of business and cut down on a lot of violent crime. Not to mention all the cash we would get in taxes that were not getting now. That would also leave the police free to keep citizens safe instead of looking for reasons to do car stops all the time. I almost forgot to mention all the money we would be saving without keeping drug dealers in prison for years after being caught with small amounts of drugs.

GloBug
04-07-2009, 02:26 PM
personnally dont smoke but I believe it should be. I have enough problems with just drinking and walking straight

lol. yeah people that i have talked to say alcahol is worse that pot. i believe it is. when do u ever hear of someone ever having a dui while being high on weed. i think the us gov. is kust stupid and way to conservative. they would reap many benefits of legalizing it. drug lords would be out of business and that will help reduce crime. not all of crime but theones where people get killed over a bad pot deal gone wrong or robbery. we will still have problems with meth coc and heroin but weed is a major money maker for drug dealers. i hope they pass it. obama already said the feds wont do anymore raids on our local medicinal marijuana clubs. i hope he keeps his word. its a start. ill take it.

GloBug
04-07-2009, 02:27 PM
I think all drugs should be legal,taxed and regulated like alcohol. I think it would put most drug dealers out of business and cut down on a lot of violent crime. Not to mention all the cash we would get in taxes that were not getting now. That would also leave the police free to keep citizens safe instead of looking for reasons to do car stops all the time. I almost forgot to mention all the money we would be saving without keeping drug dealers in prison for years after being caught with small amounts of drugs.

i totally agree. we would have a better society. i dont know about all drugs but pot should be legal.

RocketManAA
04-07-2009, 02:35 PM
I've been reading all lot of articles on the Internet that have been around since the early 1990's saying the biggest suppliers are the CIA. They use military airplanes and bases to ship in cocaine. The use the profits to fund the "Black Ops" projects when they run short of the billions of dollars they get from the government budget.

GloBug
04-07-2009, 02:49 PM
I've been reading all lot of articles on the Internet that have been around since the early 1990's saying the biggest suppliers are the CIA. They use military airplanes and bases to ship in cocaine. The use the profits to fund the "Black Ops" projects when they run short of the billions of dollars they get from the government budget.

U know i have heard of thistoo. but the problem is proving it. i mean that is where crack cocaine came about. i just dont see y dont they wont legalize pot. they can keep the crack and meth. i dont want those.

knowledge
04-07-2009, 03:17 PM
Rocket you still got all that snow up there?

freeringo
04-07-2009, 03:19 PM
Let farmers grow hemp instaed of being subsidized
by the government. It's a win win win win situation.
GROW UP AMERICA

GloBug
04-07-2009, 03:36 PM
Rocket you still got all that snow up there?

what does snow have to do with this thread. ummmm nothing.

GloBug
04-07-2009, 03:36 PM
Let farmers grow hemp instaed of being subsidized
by the government. It's a win win win win situation.
GROW UP AMERICA

not only farmers but all of us. it would be like growing tomato plants. at least that how i used to hide them when i was 19.

taylovesthebeatles
04-07-2009, 04:08 PM
I definitely think marijuana should be decriminalized, at least. It's silly. Granted I don't smoke anything, let alone pot, but trust me, there are more harmful things out there, and I believe that if people don't see it as a taboo as much, it is less likely to be abused or potentially dangerous.

NeverWinHere
04-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Yes please, would be more chill!

Pokerkitty6
04-07-2009, 04:51 PM
I'm all in make it legal!!!!!!

GloBug
04-07-2009, 05:09 PM
i wish i had the power toput this to vote. if it happens it will be a great day.

knowledge
04-07-2009, 07:20 PM
hey you can smoke it or roll around in it all smoked up? Besides it was rocketman

Arsenal28
04-07-2009, 07:38 PM
I haven't smoked in a very long time and most likely won't do it again. That being said, I loved it when I did it but just kind of moved on. I definitely think it should be legalized and taxed. Obviously there will have to be other laws about driving and things like that but that can easily be taken care of. What a great way to help boost the economy. And I agree. Most people that are against it have never tried it. If they did they would realize that it is not some demon drug at all.

GloBug
04-08-2009, 01:23 AM
yeah they would regulate it like they do liquorl. same laws.

navuta
06-05-2009, 04:14 PM
Yes please legalize it.
Change Petrol for Hemp.
Plastic for hemp...
Hemp is the salvation.
Have u guys seen on youtube the card Ford made out of hemp? so *** strong;
Man... cant belive USA did such a bad thing to the world making HEMP prohibited
HATE U GUYS>>>.
not true...
I love u guys...
I also my ganja...

Sassy12U
06-05-2009, 04:24 PM
I don't do drugs. I think they ruin people's lives and future.

I have heard that it has been used for medical purposes but I am not a doctor and in all honesty, do you really think that it is going to help the public or human body in anyway?

What is the difference between cigarette smoke and marijuana smoke? Yes there are chemicals in cigarettes but come on, its pretty much the same thing.

navuta
06-05-2009, 04:30 PM
Man, the nice facts about Hemp is the potencial for energy, the rest is just the rest. Energy efficiency the main factor global warming is going up and up.
Hemp would substitute petrol in a very easy fast cheap way.
Thats the only reasom people belive so much on this plant!

0maxpower0
06-05-2009, 04:55 PM
not only would the legaliation of marijuana benefit the general state of mind of the nation, taxing it like it would inevitably be taxed if it was legalized, would generate a ridiculous renevue. Ditto the arguement for the legalization of online poker. Between the legalization of those two things there would undoubtedly be a surplus in taxes generated for the US, enough so that it could make a tangible difference. It seems like both are on their way. Ill keep my fingers crossed

navuta
06-05-2009, 05:02 PM
wow.
Hemp legalization by the US?
comming?

That would chock the world. But the world is used to that already.
Yes, Autanazia and abortions should be legalized also everywhere, and the USA has a big responsabilty on those also.
Hope the state of the USA becomes a more sensitive and less agressive one.
If the New World Order dont spoils everything.

BnLM5
06-05-2009, 05:08 PM
Even though marijuana is classified as a Hallucinogen, which I thought strange. I still think marijuana should be legal, yes. It is probably less harmful than caffeine or nicotine, I know that it is less addictive than either. For sure it is less harmful than alcohol, in more ways than one.

But as far as the legalization process, nope not for a while. It would be too difficult for the government to control and collect taxes. However if they limit it to pharmaceuticals and keep it in pill form they can keep it all under control. I totally believe that the whole thing has not been passed for the one and only fact "money" and that is it. I mean what else. The concern for the people and their welfare? I doubt it.

I mean with all of the scripts going on now days it is almost impossible for it to be tracked and controlled. This is the whole problem.

BnLM5
06-05-2009, 05:51 PM
I don't do drugs. I think they ruin people's lives and future.

I have heard that it has been used for medical purposes but I am not a doctor and in all honesty, do you really think that it is going to help the public or human body in anyway?

What is the difference between cigarette smoke and marijuana smoke? Yes there are chemicals in cigarettes but come on, its pretty much the same thing.

Yes I do really think that marijuana can medically help people. Definitely! Especially cancer patients, for both pain and nausea.

And their are differences between cigarettes (Nicotine) and Marijuana (THC) for one nicotine is classified as a stimulant which stimulates brain cells and elevates the heart rate. Speeds up metabolism. Marijuana is classified as a hallucinogen, which creates a feeling of euphoria. Nonetheless the addiction to nicotine is by far worse than addiction to marijuana. Therefore making it much more difficult to detox the nicotine than THC.

As a matter of a fact the only similarities the two share are that 1. you can inhale smoke from both, but marijuana can be used in other ways such as eaten, vapor, pill etc. unlike nicotine which can enter the body by patch and or by gum... and 2. a marijuana joint resembles a cigarette. That's it!

I am not encouraging the use of marijuana especially the use of illegal marijuana. I am just simply answering and responding to your post. And stating my personal opinion. :)

navuta
06-05-2009, 05:57 PM
well said.
God bless the hemp.
Free the world from petrol. Plant Cannabis!

GloBug
06-05-2009, 08:05 PM
my thoughts exactly lori. i cant wait. i hope tom amiano the senator for san fran gets this thru. obama is a supporter of legalizing it i think well thats what i get when i heard him tell the feds to back off medicinal marijuana clubs. thats a step in the right way.

eejit101
06-06-2009, 01:50 AM
Sassy - wtf!?!?!?! Nothing similar!

Ive smoked pot twice, both times i was sick.

I dont like it, it did nothing for me. I dont hate people that do it, unless they depend on it to get through each day, in which case then need to cut back!!

freeringo
06-06-2009, 07:12 AM
Sassy - wtf!?!?!?! Nothing similar!

Ive smoked pot twice, both times i was sick.

I dont like it, it did nothing for me. I dont hate people that do it, unless they depend on it to get through each day, in which case then need to cut back!!

I need to correct you Eejit. People who depend on pot just to get through the day are the people who need it the most.
Cronic pain, Glaucoma, arthritis, depression ect ect.
You are dissing the people who need it medically.
To cut back is mute.
I think what you meant to say was "to each his own".

navuta
06-06-2009, 08:43 AM
I do it sometimes ( like most days)
And it helps me get trought my day...
Makes u in peace with the world and life.
Makes u see and fell Krishna. LOrd of the Gita.
lol....

What about LSD, does anyone here likes it? At least once ?

BnLM5
06-06-2009, 04:21 PM
nope! No LSD, NO, NO, NO, !

freeringo
06-06-2009, 04:24 PM
I do it sometimes ( like most days)
And it helps me get trought my day...
Makes u in peace with the world and life.
Makes u see and fell Krishna. LOrd of the Gita.
lol....

What about LSD, does anyone here likes it? At least once ?

Can you mail me some of that LDS I'll try anything once.

navuta
06-06-2009, 04:35 PM
I might send u for sure next time I get some. Np...(BIG JOKE HERE)!

Man, dont criminalize anything, everything that is done with love, pacience, and freedom are things to be considered. Heros get demonized and very bad people are ellected as heros.
Society is nice, we need it, but lets face it, there are lots of things to be done, to be fixed, hands on people, politics are allover and just here and now we can make sure that our governmments will hear our complains.

Free your mind, lets it go, be free to be you.
Think for yourself, do it for everybody,
:-):-):-):-):-):-)

freeringo
06-06-2009, 04:36 PM
I might send u for sure next time I get some. Np...(BIG JOKE HERE)!

Man, dont criminalize anything, everything that is done with love, pacience, and freedom are things to be considered. Heros get demonized and very bad people are ellected as heros.
Society is nice, we need it, but lets face it, there are lots of things to be done, to be fixed, hands on people, politics are allover and just here and now we can make sure that our governmments will hear our complains.

Free your mind, lets it go, be free to be you.
Think for yourself, do it for everybody,
:-):-):-):-):-):-)

Yes my motto FREE TO BE ME

GloBug
06-06-2009, 08:36 PM
well in my teen days i did alot of good stuff but grew out of it. sucked up my lunch money when i was in school. got old real fast. i use to go to grateful dead concerts just for some acid. dead heads always had it. i remember one time i was in high school and we got this acid that was called 8 ball. i guess it was dipped 8 times so it was really potent. well heres my story of someone really tripping out. there was a guy i wont reveal his name but ill call him john. he took 8 of them one day at school which is like taking 64 of the single dipped acid. well it was around the time was getting out of school and i was heading out to the football field for practice and then what do u know theres a naked guy running out to the field. well he was yelling the devil is in me the devil is in e . so the coached asked anyone to taclke him and help him. well it eneded up taking like 8 of us to get him down and he trying to rip his wanker off saying that the devil was in his wanker. he got so close that he literally ripped the skin all thatw ay around his wanker. pretty insane. i never heard of that kid since then. dont know if he is in a mental hospital or what. it was funny at the time but now that i think of it it was rpetty scary because that could have been me. lol

GloBug
06-06-2009, 08:37 PM
oh yeah by the way leagalize the ganja. there is no harm in it and it would help the economy. the governemnt can get us out of this hole if they allow. please obama do the right thing.

eejit101
06-06-2009, 08:38 PM
I need to correct you Eejit. People who depend on pot just to get through the day are the people who need it the most.
Cronic pain, Glaucoma, arthritis, depression ect ect.
You are dissing the people who need it medically.
To cut back is mute.
I think what you meant to say was "to each his own".

No, i know a guy with severe diabetes, hes nearly going blind aside from the monthly surgery.

Him taking it for medicinal reasons - all good. He needs it. Why not.

I meant people who smoke it to keep in the same kinda "state of mind" all day long, every day. You know what im getting at?

freeringo
06-06-2009, 08:42 PM
You don't like me and globug then?

We like you even though you work.:roll:

navuta
06-06-2009, 08:46 PM
No, i know a guy with severe diabetes, hes nearly going blind aside from the monthly surgery.

Him taking it for medicinal reasons - all good. He needs it. Why not.

I meant people who smoke it to keep in the same kinda "state of mind" all day long, every day. You know what im getting at?

Yes man, these people are addicted, like some are addicted to alcool.
Anyway, I like drinking cofe almost everyday.
But I dont like to smook weed everyday.
I like to play poker everyday.
poker is making me crazy....lol...

GloBug
06-06-2009, 08:47 PM
You don't like me and globug then?

We like you even though you work.:roll:

what u mean i dont like u. i love u and eejit.

eejit101
06-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Lol, you guys arent CONSTANTLY stoned.

You dont smoke it first thing in the morning, it doesnt ruin your life etc.

And no i dont like either of you......... i love ya! (im *g4y, ive decided)

GloBug
06-06-2009, 08:52 PM
Lol, you guys arent CONSTANTLY stoned.

You dont smoke it first thing in the morning, it doesnt ruin your life etc.

And no i dont like either of you......... i love ya! (im *g4y, ive decided)

well i have cut back alot due to being jobless but i still love it. and it is okay that u are coming out of the closet eejit. i still love ya. but if u come to the usa can u dress like boy goerge and sing chameloen to me.

freeringo
06-06-2009, 08:53 PM
Lol, you guys arent CONSTANTLY stoned.

You dont smoke it first thing in the morning, it doesnt ruin your life etc.

And no i dont like either of you......... i love ya! (im *g4y, ive decided)

Too funny, Globug you reading this.
It's called wake and bake and yes we both smoke responsibly.
Our lives aren't ruined because of that, it's because we lost our jobs.
and I quit one. To each his own. I'm loving life right now.

GloBug
06-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Too funny, Globug you reading this.
It's called wake and bake and yes we both smoke responsibly.
Our lives aren't ruined because of that, it's because we lost our jobs.
and I quit one. To each his own. I'm loving life right now.

yeah i read it. lol weed is from the earth and the only ones that abuse it are kids that shouldnt be doing it yet. like underage drinking. same thing. they always overdue it.

freeringo
06-06-2009, 09:02 PM
We have been open with the kids about it and none of them started till they were out of high school. They are all great responsible kids too.

GloBug
06-06-2009, 09:11 PM
We have been open with the kids about it and none of them started till they were out of high school. They are all great responsible kids too.

thats the way to do it. ill give my oldest about another 3-4 years then i will talk to her about it. it all has to do with the parents. nice job ringo. and damnit i got knocked out of the cake tourney with QQ i raised to 210 and get called by AJ of course and a 36 offuit and guess who wins at flop. nuff said.

Pokerkitty6
06-08-2009, 04:54 PM
I think it should be leagalized!!! I love it, but I can't do it. My job gives random tests and you just never know when it will be your turn. I tell you though, everything is better on it. The only thing that gets most people caught it the strong smell...keep it out of your car and keep it in a plastic container so non-smoker's can't smell it when it's not lit up.