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    Default Not big but a cash

    PokerStars Tournament #292827200, No Limit Hold'em
    Buy-In: $5.00/$5.00/$0.50 USD
    185 players
    Total Prize Pool: $925.00 USD
    Tournament started 2010/07/24 8:05:00 AT [2010/07/24 7:05:00 ET]


    Dear timberdogs,

    You finished the tournament in 4th place. A USD 115.62 award has been credited to your Real Money account.

    You have also received USD 25.00 in Knockout Bounties for this tournament. You won bounties for the following players: hotpocket428, bid23biz, IgorTT, commandorust, MILF ISLAND


    Congratulations!

    Thank you for participating. This was a heads up tourny,now im ready for Pokerkitty!

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    PokerStars Game #47197691130: Tournament #292827200, $5.00+$5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round VII, Level III (20/40) - 2010/07/24 10:14:46 AT [2010/07/24 9:14:46 ET]
    Table '292827200 2' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Spaetauslese (1720 in chips)
    Seat 2: timberdogs (1280 in chips)
    timberdogs: posts small blind 20
    Spaetauslese: posts big blind 40
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to timberdogs [4h Jh]
    timberdogs: calls 20
    Spaetauslese: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Kh Td Qh]
    Spaetauslese: bets 80
    timberdogs: raises 200 to 280
    Spaetauslese: calls 200
    *** TURN *** [Kh Td Qh] [7s]
    Spaetauslese: checks
    timberdogs: bets 960 and is all-in
    Spaetauslese: calls 960
    *** RIVER *** [Kh Td Qh 7s] [3s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Spaetauslese: shows [Ks Ts] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
    timberdogs: shows [4h Jh] (high card King)
    Spaetauslese collected 2560 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2560 | Rake 0
    Board [Kh Td Qh 7s 3s]
    Seat 1: Spaetauslese (big blind) showed [Ks Ts] and won (2560) with two pair, Kings and Tens
    Seat 2: timberdogs (button) (small blind) showed [4h Jh] and lost with high card King

    Guess i gamble too much,i could have seen river for free and be done with it,but had quite a few outs. any comments on this hand guys?

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    I think the flop raise was ok, as long as if he calls you slow down on the turn. You have monster outs, but being out of position sucks here, so if you arent folding this rubbish hand preflop, then I think check behind on the turn and see what the river is.

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    He isn't out of position at all! Villan led out on the flop and checked to him on the turn. I do think I like checking back on the turn.

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    I like the turn bet. The villain slowed down after his flop bet was called. I'd assume a similar draw; it just so happens he was setting a trap. More often than not, the villain will fold a draw, though, imo.

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    Well at least you got some value out of your draw. Alot of people will not bet on the draws and just check or check call, waiting to hit the draw, which may be giving out the read that your drawing, so when you do hit, villians will be scared to make a play then. I say bet a high out drawing hand and get some value for when they do hit.
    Last edited by PANAMHIEST; 07-24-2010 at 03:38 PM.

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    you lost here ya, but itll pay off when ya hit. Gotta get that value.

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    So a semi-bluff then is what he is trying to say

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    The problem with semi-bluffing here is that the villian has already showed a willingness to call. I've found that a good share of opponents that call when their bet is raised are intending to call all the way down. In that situation, taking a free card to try and hit your draw is awesome, and leaves you with a great chance to get paid off when you do make your hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klinkman View Post
    The problem with semi-bluffing here is that the villian has already showed a willingness to call. I've found that a good share of opponents that call when their bet is raised are intending to call all the way down. In that situation, taking a free card to try and hit your draw is awesome, and leaves you with a great chance to get paid off when you do make your hand.
    Except he led out with a check on the turn, which indicated weakness.

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    I'm not sure that I agree. It does mean that he's ceded control of the pot to you, but that doesn't mean weakness necessarily. I've found that this often indicates a medium strength hand that intends to call but doesn't want to play a big pot, or occasionally a trap as it was here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klinkman View Post
    I'm not sure that I agree. It does mean that he's ceded control of the pot to you, but that doesn't mean weakness necessarily. I've found that this often indicates a medium strength hand that intends to call but doesn't want to play a big pot, or occasionally a trap as it was here.
    At these limits, it's 80% conceding the pot on a semi-bluff draw, 20% trap. It just so happened it was the 20%; it's a +ev play at these limits in the long run, though, imo.

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    Im not sure its trappish, KT is just beaten by too many things. Id imagine he wont lay it down, but doesnt like it that much. Some people wont fold 2 pairs

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    Im not sure its trappish, KT is just beaten by too many things.
    Not really, only biggest two pair (tough), set and AJ/J9 beat KT here.

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    Regardless wtg, any cash is a good cash.

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