P.O.C

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Also please note these are player reviews not the owner views.I notice you joined 13 months ago and only made first posts today .I have not gotten around to all of the forum yet as I got pulled into the poker tournaments but my good casino list are these Vegas Palms ,Play United ,888 ,Royal Vegas and club World .I have won and been paid more than $10,000 by each of them.Ironically I am a high Roller who owns a n/d forum

Tracy

[Jukka1970]

I usually don't post on forums, and today when i got the email about the new casino, I actually looked at the address to fast, and thought I was in different forum called casinomeister.

As for Palace of Chance, at one time they were a good casino, but that was over 8 years ago. I played there for a while, the real slots hadn't even come out yet, and then the first 3 were released. cleopatra first, and then the next two were caesers and one other, i think it was aztec. Anyways a little while after this, they were having financial trouble. Someone bought them, and from that point on it went downhill, especially after they became a group.

You mentioned that they have a lot of free coupons. Well this is one of the best ways to tell if a casino is rogue. The more "free money" they offer the worse your chances are at doing well there, and the higher % chance that the casino is rogue.

Cool Cat casino falls into this category as well. And another big one is Prism casino.

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I guess all the Microgaming offering $2000+ are the biggest rogues in your book then.I do not know about when or if ownership has changed with them .I just know our test player experience from the past 2 weeks.Thanks for your feedback.

[eejit101]

Im with him on Prism. Tried to deny me a cashout saying I had "mis used" a bonus. And im sorry, but im not a moron Mr Prism.

POC has generally been good with NDN. Good bonuses, just use one between deposits is the best idea.

My favourite is the one on Doyles room. Not much for bonuses, but the combination with a poker room, and some nice slots is always good.


FYI - The origional 3 Reel Series were Cleo, Aztec, and Ronin. Caesar's was in the third introduction. (And Ronin ROCKS if you have $600 for $2 spins, bonuses = uber cool)

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We contacted Doyles room about a n/d bonus for the site and they have not replied to me after 2 weeks .They were on my list of poker rooms too but obviously not with this communication record.

[eejit101]

Id start with the poker side. Maybe they have not seen that much visitor wise?

[PANAMHIEST]

I really would like to see some N/D deals at some of the newer sites. poker or casino, as alot of folks already have accounts at the sites that have been around a while now. I mean I have been playing since '98, so anything that is well known or well reputated i have already been there prolly as well as others im sure.

[Jukka1970]

I guess all the Microgaming offering $2000+ are the biggest rogues in your book then.I do not know about when or if ownership has changed with them .I just know our test player experience from the past 2 weeks.Thanks for your feedback.

Actually Microgaming wasn't to bad, and then they dropped the US. First it was just that new people from the US couldn't join, then it was, well we'll let the people who've signed up play, but you don't get to play the big jackpot games, and now they've also taken away earned points for spending so much. So yeah, definitely some huge problems there.

Now as far as the 2000+ bonuses, you better believe they're the biggest ripoffs out there. First of all, the money is not free, and that's always ticked me off, when casinos say free, but it really isn't. So let me tell you how they work.

First you're given this huge amount, and then you are given a time limit, usually 45 minutes to an hour. Sounds good so far huh. Well for starters you can only play from a certain amount of slot games, well I'm ok with that, I mean there have to be conditions. Well, when you hit the bonus round, there's no way to speed up the pay out. When you regularly play, you can click the button to get what you've won and not have to wait for the whole thing to pay out, but not when you're in this free round. So what does that mean, well it means that your time gets eaten up.

Second, what you win is how much you're over the 2000 when the time expires. So if you are at 1900 say when the hour is over, you get nothing. I wouldn't even have a problem with this except for the next two conditions.
So lets say you managed to get the 2500 as an example.

Ok so now thirdly, there is a cap on how much you can win, and it's usually less then $250. So in the example of the 2500 above you get $250. And I would even be happy with that, but guess what, that 250 is not yours. What it is, is bonus money.

So fourth, the money you win is bonus money, and in order to have access to it, you need to deposit. UM hello, didn't they call it a no deposit bonus, so whats this bs about needing to deposit. So the casino says well this is how we prevent the abuse. Um yeah that would be true if it wasn't for the 5th part.

Finally or fifth, that bonus money along with your deposit gets added together, and that's right you have a playthrough requirement, usually 20 times.

So let me get this straight, the microgaming place is going to give me a no deposit of x amount of dollars, that I can only win so much that goes into a bonus account, that i in turn really do need to deposit to get and I have to play a playthrough including my deposit that I was never suppose to have to put in, in the first place?

Jukka

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Many valid points but the rules are all there where you claim a n/d bonus.I won about $400 on one of these n/d bonus about 5-6 months ago and I recall having 7 days to deposit $20.00 wish I could remember where it was now lol.Many places cap your winnings on n/d money while others want you to deposit to claim it.

[Jukka1970]

and that would be fine, but they shouldn't be calling it a no deposit bonus then, and there shouldn't be a 2nd playthrough on it. Sorry, no deposit bonus, means you don't have to deposit.