Ring vs Tourny

[TerpZone]

Which do you guys prefer?

I currently play 4 .05/.10 tables at a night with a 50 BB buyin at each table. For anyone who plays these limits at FTP, you know they're extremely week and so I've been playing at a rate of about 130-170BB/ hour ($13-$17 an hour). Now yes, I'm sure this is a completely unsustainable rate although I have been doing it for about a week now since the Take 2 promotion started.

The problem is, ring games bore the crap out of me, and that's the only reason I'm playing 4 games at a time...and so I never want to stay long despite winning.

And so I play SnGs all day. I usually play at an even to -10% clip in the SnGs, but I just find them so much more interesting, as they have a definitive end, a different way of playing, and, most importantly, you can only lose as much as your buyin. Being risk averse, this is why I play them, and ring games are what pay for it.


I'm sure moving up to the .10/.25s seems like the logical step, but I feel like the field is so weak down at .05/.10, I can't bring myself to face a stronger field and the lower limits let me boss around the tables with my bankroll a little bit more.


I'm not really sure where I'm going with all this, was just wondering how the rest of you feel towards ring games and whether or not you prefer them to cash?

[TerpZone]

So I just finished up a session of about an hour on four .05/.10 tables.

I bought into each of the four tables with $5 and cashed out with $10.55 (+5.55), $4.08 (-0.92), $10.11 (+5.11), and $15.34 (+10.34) for a total BB/hr profit of 200 bb/hr, which is basically a double up every hour. This crap goes on every night (albeit I've only been winning this much recently) and I spend it all chasing big cashouts in tournaments the next day.

This is my hand statistics for the hour:


Statistics for 358 Hands
Street
Saw Saw/Total
Flop 100 28%
Turn 57 16%
River 41 11%
Showdown 26 7%

Street
Won Won/Saw Won/Total
Pre-flop 8 2% 2%
Flop 24 24% 7%
Turn 9 16% 3%
River 9 22% 3%
Showdown 15 58% 4%


+18% win rate 10 handed is not too shabby. As you can see, most of those wins are on the flop, and this is because at this limit, it's easy to push off opponents with nothing for only .20/.30 cents. I took down countless pots of .30-.50 with nothing, and they start to add up.

I wish I could grow the balls to play this up one level where a 200bb/hr would equate to $50 instead of $20 but I know once I move up, all it takes is one bad beat and i'm down my buyin on two tables at the current level.




I wish I could just win the lotto. The best part of this though is from when I bought $10 FTP money for 1800 chips the day the ndn shop closed up, so I suppose it's all free money.

[eejit101]

your hands seen is too high. Id imagine your VPIP is too high as well.

[markjfixit]

I like tourney play alot more than ring. you can make a ton more money in a ring game in a very short period of time were the tourney is many hours of grinding.I found that I dont like ring because theres no goal line. it took me along time to figure out that in tourney you can look and see were your at how many people left and when you hit the money but in ring its just play until your broke bored or hit your mark. I found it bores me. so tourney for me. although I did one time sit at .50/1.00 ring with 30 bucks and had 200 in about 10 minutes!! that rocked but doesnt happen to often.

[eejit101]

I think you have that entire post backwards man......

Ring = grinding
tourneys = big hits and big variance

goal line = ring
Aim for the max = tourney

Ring = hours and hours
tourney = play it, bust, go get drunk

[TerpZone]

your hands seen is too high. Id imagine your VPIP is too high as well.

That's my point. At the limits I'm playing, I can't afford to NOT play nearly every hand from late position!

And mark, I agree. That's why I can't get myself to play more ring games... I just much prefer the definitive end of tournaments.

[kingsnthahole]

look at it from a work standpoint, what job is going to pay you 20 dollars an hour to sit on your a$$ at your computer screen andd o what you love, this is why i like ring games more.

[TerpZone]

look at it from a work standpoint, what job is going to pay you 20 dollars an hour to sit on your a$$ at your computer screen andd o what you love, this is why i like ring games more.

If I could average $20/hour over an 8 hour period 5 days a week, I'd have no problem playing only ring games.

But I can't.

[PANAMHIEST]

I use to play ring games for rather large amounts of money back when i had a really good bankroll going. It was the stupidiest move i have ever done, and still to this day, if i were to pay ring games, I would end up broke. Ring games for me are like the evil opposite of my tournament play, and in the long run I cant ever win at ring games. After losing roughly 16k at AP, I said to h3ll with it, and havent played ring games since. Tournament games is where my A game is, even if i dont always cash, it never leaves me with the sick feeling i get from knowing i just lost half my bankroll playing ring. Maybe one day I will venture into the world of ring again, but it wont happen anytime soon. Maybe a few WSOP bracelets later, then i might play the
.05/.10.lol Ring games are for the uber rich,not me.