Enforcing BAP rules?

[freeringo]

I am concerned about the enforcement of BAP rules.
There is talk of possible expulsion if a player fails to post a swing hand or winning hand.
I believe that everyone is trying to comply the best they can.
But, there are so many things that can prevent a person from posting.
1. kids and family issues
2. forgot
3. don't know how
4. only 4 players left and the game pace is too fast to copy and paint
5. fast paced game and I got 3 huge hands in a row and can't find the time to post
6. not very computer savy
7. just plain slow or stupid

Because of all or any of these reasons, one could argue that it would be discrimination if anyone got banned from play for failing to follow rules.

It's almost impossible to enforce anyway.

What if someone breaks a rule 1 week and 1 more time 2 months later?
Does that count as two and your out?

Is that as bad as a blatent refusal to comply?

What if someone made an honest mistake and reacts poorly to a warning
or a blatent rule breaker brown noses and apologizes over and over.

My advise is to forget rules enforcement before a fight breaks out over this and anarchy takes over.
Instead of the word enforcement, try the word encouraged.
Members will stay much happier over the long run.

What's more important?
The members comradery and happiness or a hierarchy authoritative forum that stresses everyone out?

Playing for the BAP is stressful enough already.

THINK

[nodepositneeded]

Having only read the first post of this thread - Here are my thoughts:

People won't be banned from the BAP for a rule violation - They will be warned.

If it's a regular thing - They will be removed from the BAP (they will of course be able to sell their shares first).

If people have time to play the game - They have time to post the history (it takes seconds and it's right there in front of you).

If you're playing a good game - There shouldn't be many hands to post in the first place.

A well played game will have very few swing hands to talk about.

If you've ever watched me play - You'll see how boring poker really is.

[freeringo]

NDN said it first.

It's great to be a Donk or else poker is boring.

[GloBug]

I dont know if i agree with an outright ban from bap,i think i read something from eej about "a suspension of bap playing priviliges",and maybe a longer suspension second time around and if someone refuses to follow the rules after 3 such suspensions maybe a ban is in order.

well of course u would want to get banned form the bap. you are one of them that isnt posting hands. i mean come this is crap. im sick of this ****. eejit i say 1 warning then banned form bap after 2nd time. no 3 strikes. we have players that have done it twice.

[eejit101]

Ill give them time to post it, if not, ill deal with it. Trust in me

[GloBug]

Ill give them time to post it, if not, ill deal with it. Trust in me

i got comeplete and utter trust in you. i am sorry i had to say this the way i said it but i had to get it off my chest. i was really irked by sassys and asz rail threads. sassy has done this twice and asz is a newbie and he trying to call shots. no i dont think so. like i said before who needs him to play a $2 double up or nothing tourney. thats a waste of time. well whatever handle your business eejit.

[ROGUE63]

well of course u would want to get banned form the bap. you are one of them that isnt posting hands. i mean come this is crap. im sick of this ****. eejit i say 1 warning then banned form bap after 2nd time. no 3 strikes. we have players that have done it twice.

HEY DUDE MAYBE YOU MISSED MY POST I ADMITTED TO NOT POSTING THE ONE I HAND I PLAYED IN MY FIRST GAME I LASTED ONLY MINUTES GOT BUSTED BY SOME GUY WHO CALLED MY BIG RAISE WITH 8 9 OFF SUIT AGAINST MY A K I CAUGHT A KING ON FLOP AND WASS ALLIN AND GONE AGAINST HIS THREE 9S.I DID POST MY FINISHING SPOT .IN THE SECOND GAME I DID POST THE SWING AND BUST HANDS BUT COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT A SCREENSHOT OF FINISHING POSITION I OFFERED TO GO TO CAKE SUPPORT AND REQUEST GAME HISTORY AND FINISHING RESULTS BUT NDN TOLD ME IT WAS NOT NECESSARY THIS TIME .SORRY YOUR SO RILED UP ABOUT THIS GLO BUT I THOUGHT MY POST SHOWED I WAS ON SIDE FOR ENFORCING THE RULES AND COMPLYING WITH THEM.
THANKS VERY MUCH
ROGUE63(aka Anthony)

[nodepositneeded]

Just to be clear - My statements about enforcing the rules were never directed at any specific member.

[BnLM5]

i got comeplete and utter trust in you. i am sorry i had to say this the way i said it but i had to get it off my chest. i was really irked by sassys and asz rail threads. sassy has done this twice and asz is a newbie and he trying to call shots. no i dont think so. like i said before who needs him to play a $2 double up or nothing tourney. thats a waste of time. well whatever handle your business eejit.

Glo, this is the second post that you have said something about (not needing) BAP members $1.80 or $2.00. In my opinion $1.80/$2.00 is money and if the BAP doesn't need it there should have been a rule for a minimum of 25 or more shares. I don't think it's very nice to say that someone (A BAP Member) is not important because of how many shares they own. I for one only own the minimum amount of shares and truthfully I thought I was being supportive. Obviously I was not understanding it completely but I am still a BAP member and I have been a member of NDN for almost five years now. Nonetheless can you imagine how it makes me feel that my games are so unworthy of contributing because the money is so little, and poor eejit who has offered to play them for me........ Any way that's my opinion on that.

For the rest of this thread my opinion is that rules are rules and these rules have been made in every single one of our best interest! God forbid it should happen but unless you are physically unable to do what should be done than it should be done. Physically unable = had a heart attack during game and taken away by ambulance, child needs emergency care, the power went out right in the middle of your game...etc..... or in other words Acts of God or nature or Karma however you chose to see it but Acts that could not be avoided.

[TerpZone]

Acts that could not be avoided.

Well, you could prevent the child from acting up...BY HITTING HIM/HER!

MUAHAHAHA

[GloBug]

Glo, this is the second post that you have said something about (not needing) BAP members $1.80 or $2.00. In my opinion $1.80/$2.00 is money and if the BAP doesn't need it there should have been a rule for a minimum of 25 or more shares. I don't think it's very nice to say that someone (A BAP Member) is not important because of how many shares they own. I for one only own the minimum amount of shares and truthfully I thought I was being supportive. Obviously I was not understanding it completely but I am still a BAP member and I have been a member of NDN for almost five years now. Nonetheless can you imagine how it makes me feel that my games are so unworthy of contributing because the money is so little, and poor eejit who has offered to play them for me........ Any way that's my opinion on that.

For the rest of this thread my opinion is that rules are rules and these rules have been made in every single one of our best interest! God forbid it should happen but unless you are physically unable to do what should be done than it should be done. Physically unable = had a heart attack during game and taken away by ambulance, child needs emergency care, the power went out right in the middle of your game...etc..... or in other words Acts of God or nature or Karma however you chose to see it but Acts that could not be avoided.

i wasnt talking to you i was talking to asz. he was saying that he wont play if he has to post hands while playing. tell me is that wrong or what. wasnt that a rule we made. also the $2 you are refering to is what he won on a 10 player $2 buyin doulbe or nothing tourney. so basically u come in the top 5 out of 10 and u will $4. he said if we didnt want him winning then he wont play. well i was mad at the fact that he said he wont post hands and that we need to decide on his $2 win vs him posting hands. u need to read the other rail thread he started then u will understand.. has not a damn thing to do with you.

[BnLM5]

i wasnt talking to you i was talking to asz. he was saying that he wont play if he has to post hands while playing. tell me is that wrong or what. wasnt that a rule we made. also the $2 you are refering to is what he won on a 10 player $2 buyin doulbe or nothing tourney. so basically u come in the top 5 out of 10 and u will $4. he said if we didnt want him winning then he wont play. well i was mad at the fact that he said he wont post hands and that we need to decide on his $2 win vs him posting hands. u need to read the other rail thread he started then u will understand.. has not a damn thing to do with you.

I know you were not talking to me or about me it was just the point. And I absolutely agree with you on the rules. Yes I think he should post his hands there is a reason for posting them and it is a BAP rule. Maybe he has a reason for not doing so, I don't know as I came in on the a** end of the conversation. But whatever the reason he needs to address it. Whether it be he doesn't know how or something else. But just like everyone he too needs to follow the rules. It should not matter if it is $1.00 or $100. That's all!

[GloBug]

I know you were not talking to me or about me it was just the point. And I absolutely agree with you on the rules. Yes I think he should post his hands there is a reason for posting them and it is a BAP rule. Maybe he has a reason for not doing so, I don't know as I came in on the a** end of the conversation. But whatever the reason he needs to address it. Whether it be he doesn't know how or something else. But just like everyone he too needs to follow the rules. It should not matter if it is $1.00 or $100. That's all!

well lori he says that he just cant do it and play poker and thats not a good excuse as we all can do it and have done it. just a lame excuse thats all.

[eejit101]

True, value doesnt matter. People play in their comfort zones, i hope, and if they can win a couple of bucks a week, why not! Just means when i play and lose my game that it costs us less

Asz is PMing me i believe regarding this, and ill clear it up.

Oh, Lori, if you read this in time, let me know what you want to do on your next games. Your picking who plys them remember. If you find anyone else who will do it for free, lemme know!

[GloBug]

well i would play for lori for free. whatever i won would go to her and the bap. well i hope he does clear it up eejit. and good luck to all bap players today.

[BnLM5]

I am sorry! I appreciate the fact the either one of you will play for me. Glo if you want to and it's not too late please do. Thank you very much!

[GloBug]

I am sorry! I appreciate the fact the either one of you will play for me. Glo if you want to and it's not too late please do. Thank you very much!

Well i will do that and will post the rail thread.

i will get u some money;

[BnLM5]

Well i will do that and will post the rail thread.

i will get u some money;

I thank you Glo for playing the game for me very much... I hope you win! I am not even about the money sooo. I just hope you win for the BAP in my name.

[GloBug]

I thank you Glo for playing the game for me very much... I hope you win! I am not even about the money sooo. I just hope you win for the BAP in my name.

well i got the transfer and i will be playing. im thinking of playing past midnight tonight. i have a busy day tomorrow so i will post if i decide to. if not i will play late tomorrow night. wish me luck.

[BnLM5]

Good Luck! Good Luck! Good Luck!

[freeringo]

6 out of 13 members voted to have Eejit Flogged.

I vote we have Jen do it

pictures will be needed

[eejit101]

Jen did. I didnt know about it tho.

I woke up with 4 slanty lines of speckled blood on my bed...

Scratched the hell out of my back:(

[woohoosue]

Jen did. I didnt know about it tho.

I woke up with 4 slanty lines of speckled blood on my bed...

Scratched the hell out of my back:(

ok this has to be redone then ..i believe you were voted a flogging not a back scratch ..heck anyone gets scratch it's a good thing...i Google flogging for you and Jen ...hope it helps....

Flogging in the Navy

feel free to post pictures of this when shes through ....and Jen if you do wear something in leather..we would appreciate you setting up the tripod and jumping in the pic too!

Happy flogging...everyone!

[eejit101]

lesbanims...

[woohoosue]

lesbanims...

callit what you may ....i think she will look better in leather than you.... i dont act on my woman love feelings...i just think we are prettier than u guys is all..bring on the pics!