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  1. #1
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    Default Playing the daily doubles tonite

    I'm playing in the daily doubles on FTP tonight.
    Jackpot is 48K.

    So, this hand came up early in the first hour. I think this is a correct fold at this stage. I think I'm dominated here a good percentage of the time because people don't often reraise in low buyin tourneys.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14440063250: Daily Double - B (105189652), Table 112 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:17:29 ET - 2009/09/02
    Seat 1: ayarbrough (2,585)
    Seat 2: CCO687 (1,870)
    Seat 3: ICYUNVME (1,835)
    Seat 4: kclizzard (1,320), is sitting out
    Seat 5: ALKOCKAR (2,100)
    Seat 6: Flip313 (1,705)
    Seat 7: Tersh (1,925)
    Seat 8: dnrules (2,015)
    Seat 9: gott ist stumm (2,665)
    gott ist stumm posts the small blind of 15
    ayarbrough posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dnrules [Kc Jc]
    CCO687 folds
    ICYUNVME folds
    kclizzard folds
    ALKOCKAR folds
    Flip313 folds
    Tersh folds
    dnrules raises to 90
    gott ist stumm raises to 240
    ayarbrough calls 210
    dnrules folds
    *** FLOP *** [9d 9s 4d]
    gott ist stumm checks
    ayarbrough bets 300
    gott ist stumm has 15 seconds left to act
    gott ist stumm raises to 900
    ayarbrough calls 600
    *** TURN *** [9d 9s 4d] [8c]
    gott ist stumm bets 1,525, and is all in
    ayarbrough calls 1,445, and is all in
    gott ist stumm shows [Jh Js]
    ayarbrough shows [Kh Kd]
    Uncalled bet of 80 returned to gott ist stumm
    *** RIVER *** [9d 9s 4d 8c] [8s]
    gott ist stumm shows two pair, Jacks and Nines
    ayarbrough shows two pair, Kings and Nines
    ayarbrough wins the pot (5,260) with two pair, Kings and Nines
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 5,260 | Rake 0
    Board: [9d 9s 4d 8c 8s]
    Seat 1: ayarbrough (big blind) showed [Kh Kd] and won (5,260) with two pair, Kings and Nines
    Seat 2: CCO687 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: ICYUNVME didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: kclizzard didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: ALKOCKAR didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: Flip313 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: Tersh didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: dnrules (button) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: gott ist stumm (small blind) showed [Jh Js] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Nines
    Last edited by ferrengi; 09-02-2009 at 07:22 PM. Reason: Forgot to post the hand!

  2. #2
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    Another hand from the DD:

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14440301651: Daily Double - A (105189405), Table 98 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:28:32 ET - 2009/09/02
    Seat 1: _maky17 (3,195)
    Seat 2: grindstugaosd (1,815)
    Seat 3: MitchySlick3 (4,375)
    Seat 4: moosevuitton (1,910)
    Seat 5: Yendor Nevets (2,060)
    Seat 6: cajunboy645 (3,300)
    Seat 7: betmanwest (6,015)
    Seat 8: swadmin (940)
    Seat 9: dnrules (1,885)
    swadmin posts the small blind of 20
    dnrules posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dnrules [7s 5d]
    _maky17 folds
    grindstugaosd raises to 80
    MitchySlick3 calls 80
    moosevuitton folds
    Yendor Nevets folds
    cajunboy645 folds
    betmanwest calls 80
    swadmin folds
    dnrules calls 40
    *** FLOP *** [3h 4d 6d]
    dnrules checks
    grindstugaosd checks
    MitchySlick3 bets 120
    betmanwest calls 120
    dnrules has 15 seconds left to act
    dnrules raises to 560
    grindstugaosd folds
    MitchySlick3 has 15 seconds left to act
    MitchySlick3 folds
    betmanwest folds
    Uncalled bet of 440 returned to dnrules
    dnrules mucks
    dnrules wins the pot (700)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 700 | Rake 0
    Board: [3h 4d 6d]
    Seat 1: _maky17 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: grindstugaosd folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: MitchySlick3 folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: moosevuitton didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: Yendor Nevets didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: cajunboy645 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: betmanwest (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: swadmin (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: dnrules (big blind) collected (700), mucked

    I called the min raise preflop because of pot odds.
    I flopped the nut str8 and I'm really wondering if there was a better way to play it.
    I was hoping the original raiser had a high pair and go broke to me. I don't really like the check raise in this spot but I feel I have to charge people to draw to the flush.

    Maybe I should just lead out on the flop and reevaluate if a diamond hits the turn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrengi View Post
    Another hand from the DD:

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14440301651: Daily Double - A (105189405), Table 98 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:28:32 ET - 2009/09/02
    Seat 1: _maky17 (3,195)
    Seat 2: grindstugaosd (1,815)
    Seat 3: MitchySlick3 (4,375)
    Seat 4: moosevuitton (1,910)
    Seat 5: Yendor Nevets (2,060)
    Seat 6: cajunboy645 (3,300)
    Seat 7: betmanwest (6,015)
    Seat 8: swadmin (940)
    Seat 9: dnrules (1,885)
    swadmin posts the small blind of 20
    dnrules posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dnrules [7s 5d]
    _maky17 folds
    grindstugaosd raises to 80
    MitchySlick3 calls 80
    moosevuitton folds
    Yendor Nevets folds
    cajunboy645 folds
    betmanwest calls 80
    swadmin folds
    dnrules calls 40
    *** FLOP *** [3h 4d 6d]
    dnrules checks
    grindstugaosd checks
    MitchySlick3 bets 120
    betmanwest calls 120
    dnrules has 15 seconds left to act
    dnrules raises to 560
    grindstugaosd folds
    MitchySlick3 has 15 seconds left to act
    MitchySlick3 folds
    betmanwest folds
    Uncalled bet of 440 returned to dnrules
    dnrules mucks
    dnrules wins the pot (700)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 700 | Rake 0
    Board: [3h 4d 6d]
    Seat 1: _maky17 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: grindstugaosd folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: MitchySlick3 folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: moosevuitton didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: Yendor Nevets didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: cajunboy645 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: betmanwest (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: swadmin (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: dnrules (big blind) collected (700), mucked

    I called the min raise preflop because of pot odds.
    I flopped the nut str8 and I'm really wondering if there was a better way to play it.
    I was hoping the original raiser had a high pair and go broke to me. I don't really like the check raise in this spot but I feel I have to charge people to draw to the flush.

    Maybe I should just lead out on the flop and reevaluate if a diamond hits the turn?
    I think you play this hand right.You had the nuts on the flop.You never want to let them fish for there draw.Good play

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    Quote Originally Posted by luke214 View Post
    I think you play this hand right.You had the nuts on the flop.You never want to let them fish for there draw.Good play
    Thanks.
    Personally, I don't mind letting people fish for their draw as long as they are getting a bad price to chase and I'll be able to get away from the hand if it seems like they hit.
    In a situation like this, I'd rather get some more chips from this guys but I also don't think I want 3 opponents in the hand against me on the turn.
    I suppose I can just check-fold if the flush card hits but I think at this point, the pot is big enough that I want to make sure I give myself a good chance of winning it. Check calling increases my risk quite a bit.

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    I'm definitely hitting flops but I'm having a hard time getting paid off.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14440408144: Daily Double - B (105189652), Table 112 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:33:27 ET - 2009/09/02
    Seat 1: ayarbrough (5,365)
    Seat 2: CCO687 (750)
    Seat 3: ICYUNVME (1,610)
    Seat 4: kclizzard (1,215)
    Seat 5: ALKOCKAR (2,430)
    Seat 6: Flip313 (1,230)
    Seat 7: Tersh (1,775)
    Seat 8: dnrules (2,235)
    Seat 9: gott ist stumm (1,410)
    gott ist stumm posts the small blind of 25
    ayarbrough posts the big blind of 50
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dnrules [Ks Kd]
    CCO687 has 15 seconds left to act
    CCO687 folds
    ICYUNVME folds
    kclizzard folds
    ALKOCKAR folds
    Flip313 folds
    Tersh folds
    dnrules raises to 150
    gott ist stumm folds
    ayarbrough calls 100
    *** FLOP *** [Kc Ac 2h]
    ayarbrough checks
    dnrules bets 200
    ayarbrough folds
    Uncalled bet of 200 returned to dnrules
    dnrules mucks
    dnrules wins the pot (325)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 325 | Rake 0
    Board: [Kc Ac 2h]
    Seat 1: ayarbrough (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: CCO687 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: ICYUNVME didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: kclizzard didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: ALKOCKAR didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: Flip313 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: Tersh didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: dnrules (button) collected (325), mucked
    Seat 9: gott ist stumm (small blind) folded before the Flop

    I like my flop bet because a medium ace is obviously in his range and he might have a flush draw as well.

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    I really needed this one,

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14440745054: Daily Double - A (105189405), Table 118 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:49:08 ET - 2009/09/02
    Seat 1: dnrules (1,275)
    Seat 2: elitewrestla (2,950)
    Seat 3: CReyno (4,475)
    Seat 4: dozercon (8,595)
    Seat 5: 1milord (2,670)
    Seat 6: jimmeebgood (3,755)
    Seat 7: Imbluffingagain (4,815)
    Seat 8: zlsoto (4,850)
    Seat 9: TheWizardOfOddz (3,165)
    zlsoto posts the small blind of 30
    TheWizardOfOddz posts the big blind of 60
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dnrules [Jh Jd]
    dnrules raises to 240
    elitewrestla folds
    CReyno folds
    dozercon raises to 420
    1milord folds
    jimmeebgood folds
    Imbluffingagain calls 420
    zlsoto folds
    TheWizardOfOddz folds
    dnrules raises to 1,275, and is all in
    dozercon calls 855
    Imbluffingagain calls 855
    *** FLOP *** [2c Ks Kc]
    dozercon has 15 seconds left to act
    dozercon bets 360
    Imbluffingagain calls 360
    *** TURN *** [2c Ks Kc] [6s]
    dozercon checks
    Imbluffingagain checks
    *** RIVER *** [2c Ks Kc 6s] [4c]
    dozercon has 15 seconds left to act
    dozercon bets 540
    Imbluffingagain has 15 seconds left to act
    Imbluffingagain folds
    Uncalled bet of 540 returned to dozercon
    dozercon wins the side pot (720)
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    dozercon shows [7h 7s] two pair, Kings and Sevens
    dnrules shows [Jh Jd] two pair, Kings and Jacks
    dnrules wins the main pot (3,915) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4,635 Main pot 3,915. Side pot 720. | Rake 0
    Board: [2c Ks Kc 6s 4c]
    Seat 1: dnrules showed [Jh Jd] and won (3,915) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Seat 2: elitewrestla didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: CReyno didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: dozercon showed [7h 7s] and won (720) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
    Seat 5: 1milord didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: jimmeebgood didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: Imbluffingagain (button) folded on the River
    Seat 8: zlsoto (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: TheWizardOfOddz (big blind) folded before the Flop

    I was a little worried about the small PF reraise but I felt that this guy was raising a lot preflop so he doesn't necessarily have a high pair to make this move.

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    Fold hand one every time.

    Hand 2, slow play.

    Same for 3.

    As for 4, looks fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    Fold hand one every time.

    Hand 2, slow play.

    Same for 3.

    As for 4, looks fine
    eejit,
    You think hand 3 is a slowplay hand? I could easily have flopped nothing and been bluffing in that spot and there's a lot of hands villain could have that will pay me off. Most people would get suspicious if the preflop raiser checks behind with a flop like that. Then again, this is only a $10 tourney so they are probably not thinking so deeply.

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    I think eejit is correct with both 2 and 3. You need to slowplay the big flops and watch out for the draws you think might hurt you. On the flopped straight, smooth call the flop bet and then check raise on the turn. You will find more people willing to go broke on the turn, rather than the flop.

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    I think I played this hand well.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14441358535: Daily Double - A (105189405), Table 118 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:19:28 ET - 2009/09/02
    Seat 1: dnrules (3,405)
    Seat 2: elitewrestla (3,370)
    Seat 3: CReyno (5,405)
    Seat 4: dozercon (13,820)
    Seat 5: 1milord (2,240)
    Seat 6: jimmeebgood (3,755)
    Seat 7: Imbluffingagain (1,300)
    Seat 8: collegesuckout (2,805)
    Seat 9: TheWizardOfOddz (3,405)
    dnrules posts the small blind of 50
    elitewrestla posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dnrules [Kc Qc]
    CReyno folds
    dozercon folds
    1milord folds
    jimmeebgood folds
    Imbluffingagain folds
    collegesuckout folds
    TheWizardOfOddz raises to 300
    dnrules calls 250
    elitewrestla folds
    *** FLOP *** [6c 3c Ad]
    dnrules checks
    TheWizardOfOddz has 15 seconds left to act
    TheWizardOfOddz bets 375
    dnrules raises to 1,300
    TheWizardOfOddz folds
    Uncalled bet of 925 returned to dnrules
    dnrules mucks
    dnrules wins the pot (1,450)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1,450 | Rake 0
    Board: [6c 3c Ad]
    Seat 1: dnrules (small blind) collected (1,450), mucked
    Seat 2: elitewrestla (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: CReyno didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: dozercon didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: 1milord didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: jimmeebgood didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: Imbluffingagain didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: collegesuckout didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: TheWizardOfOddz (button) folded on the Flop

    villain had been pretty aggressive preflop but I didn't it was worth it to push all-in pre because it will cost me too much in situations where he has a real hand.
    He makes a standard continuation bet and I felt I could easily have the best hand here. The flush draw was just a nice extra in case he really did have an ace. He folded to the check raise without a moment's thought.

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