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    I'm against health care. I do not want my hand forced into buying health care. I don't believe it's the economically wise decision for someone my age to be covered as fully as the government would force, and I don't think its their place to force me to do so. I'd go into more detail, but I just opened my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerpZone View Post
    I'm against health care. I do not want my hand forced into buying health care. I don't believe it's the economically wise decision for someone my age to be covered as fully as the government would force, and I don't think its their place to force me to do so. I'd go into more detail, but I just opened my eyes.


    It's hard to get involved in the overall debate when it is really an individual family issue. Everyone is different. I don't care how they plan to shift billions of dollars from there to here. I don't care if the industry makes less profit.
    It doesn't effect me.
    We can always change something later with new administrations.
    I'm for: go with the flow of things.
    We all have too many other things to focus our energies on than Healthcare reform. We elected people to make those decisions.
    They weren't elected to help my kids with homework or give me a ride to work or make dinner and wash my clothes. They were elected to do the job none of us wanted. Now let them do their job.

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    From what i know, BaracK Obama wasnt to give 46,000,000 people free healthcare.....

    And doing this is making him not liked in the USA............. why???

    Are these 46 Million people all dicks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    From what i know, BaracK Obama wasnt to give 46,000,000 people free healthcare.....

    And doing this is making him not liked in the USA............. why???

    Are these 46 Million people all dicks?
    Yes the majority of people are only interested in how to lined thier pocket cash. I personally believe that health care reform is needed, and should have been done long ago, when the economy was doing great. But if hads wont solve this, but i really hope that one day people who wouldnt normally be able to afford to get the medical care they needed, will be able to do so with the health care clan the obama administration is doing.

    A really good movie to watch on this subject is called"Jhonny Q". If this health care reform doesnt work, can you imagine having to possibly taking drastic measures to save your son/daughters life? What if you needed heart surgery or you will die, and it is an available life saving surgery, but you cant afford it? then what? just die? Thats why we need this, and if i gotta be the odd man out in america, then great I love obama. I dont care if he is white, black, republican or democrat, he is doing something absolutly wonderful for humanity and his fellow americans, so god bless him. One day, his ideas may save my life even, and that greatly humbles me, and i will stand by my vote, no matter what happens.

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    Ive seen the film "John Q". Dezel washington in it e.t.c

    And my post was a joke, i thought it was funny. True tho as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    From what i know, BaracK Obama wasnt to give 46,000,000 people free healthcare.....

    And doing this is making him not liked in the USA............. why???

    Are these 46 Million people all dicks?
    Because these people are rational, economically sound individuals.

    People who supports public health care in the US are leftist drones who do whatever the DNC tells them.

    Guess what guys? We can oppose the war AND oppose national health care!

    It works in France. It won't work here.

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    In the UK, we pay a set amount out of our wages each week/month.

    On wages of £300 ($500 a week), i usually pay $45 or so in National Insurance.

    This gives me free healthcare at all time, and hugely discounted dental

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    In the UK, we pay a set amount out of our wages each week/month.

    On wages of £300 ($500 a week), i usually pay $45 or so in National Insurance.

    This gives me free healthcare at all time, and hugely discounted dental
    You're living in a much smaller nation (that I miss living in more than anything in the world) that isn't at the helm of medical research.

    And you're paying 13% in insurance? That's less than most people in the states pay now and would bring our normal pay taxes to well over 25% of our paychecks.

    Neither the logistics nor the economies of nationalized health care would work in the US, and that's not the bring up the issue of removed private, corporate, incentives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerpZone View Post
    You're living in a much smaller nation (that I miss living in more than anything in the world) that isn't at the helm of medical research.

    And you're paying 13% in insurance? That's less than most people in the states pay now and would bring our normal pay taxes to well over 25% of our paychecks.

    Neither the logistics nor the economies of nationalized health care would work in the US, and that's not the bring up the issue of removed private, corporate, incentives.

    I honor your debate and oppinion but, you are not giving us any facts as to why you are against it.
    Will it cost you more per month or less per month?
    Does anyone know?
    We need to all walk in each others shoes to really have a judgement on this subject.
    I am already on National healthcare and I am OK with it. I get to see a doctor of my choice and get timely appointments.
    Medicare has recently cut back on dental maintenance and optomentry.
    We all have to pay something on our healthcare. Some can afford more than others. The American family budget was designed for families to pay less than 30% of our wages on housing. I pay 60% or more.
    Without Medicare I would not ever be able to afford Health Insurance.
    However, some of you may not know this but if you don't have Insurance, there is a thing called sliding scale payment option. I pay 25% of my bill at the doctors office for low income. This is cheaper than the $30 copay
    Blue cross offers. Not to mention the $1500 deductable and monthly premiums that went up 42% this year from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    In the UK, we pay a set amount out of our wages each week/month.

    On wages of £300 ($500 a week), i usually pay $45 or so in National Insurance.

    This gives me free healthcare at all time, and hugely discounted dental
    That is a unbelievably great deal, and I cant wait for the health care system to be put in place here. If there are some people out there who dont want it, and want to continue to pursue some sort of private health insurance, then they should be able to opt out it it at thier own risk, but after the reform takes place i wouldnt trust my health care to an already corrupt private health care system. I dont see many private health care insurance companies staying in business for long either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PANAMHIEST View Post
    If there are some people out there who dont want it, and want to continue to pursue some sort of private health insurance
    If this is what you believe, then you're misinformed.

    Have fun waiting 3x as long for an inferior doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    In the UK, we pay a set amount out of our wages each week/month.

    On wages of £300 ($500 a week), i usually pay $45 or so in National Insurance.

    This gives me free healthcare at all time, and hugely discounted dental
    This all sounds wonderful but you pay weekly and religiously for this health care yet you wait, how long for dental care when you are in pain?

    It would be great if every American had free health care. By doing this but then the next thing you know they have you in jail because you can't afford health care, Just like car insurance. The cost are unGodly amounts.

    Nonetheless right now at this time there are Sooooooo many American people who are unemployed the numbers are in the millions. (Employment Situation Summary) What about health care for them or their children?

    This is way too much thought for me right now..... Gawd I hate politics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BnLM5 View Post
    This all sounds wonderful but you pay weekly and religiously for this health care yet you wait, how long for dental care when you are in pain?

    It would be great if every American had free health care. By doing this but then the next thing you know they have you in jail because you can't afford health care, Just like car insurance. The cost are unGodly amounts.

    Nonetheless right now at this time there are Sooooooo many American people who are unemployed the numbers are in the millions. (Employment Situation Summary) What about health care for them or their children?

    This is way too much thought for me right now..... Gawd I hate politics!
    To be fair, national health care CAN work in smaller countries, and it does. It just won't work here.

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