Possible cheaters at UltimateBet and Absolute Poker

[TerpZone]

I was browsing the internets and found this, of course only 12 hours after depositing at UltimateBet.

I recognize that it's 12-18 months old, and not technically "proved," but I found this to be fairly substantial evidence of cheaters at UltimateBet and Absolute Poker from a reliable source.

It's a long read, but I recommend it for anyone who has money at, or plans on depositing at, one of these sites.

Whether or not these players are still around is unknown to me, but it definitely makes you think.

For your viewing pleasure:

Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions - Poker News - News, Views and Gossip



Check out the Youtube video of a simulated $1000 buyin game from the hand history of one of the disputed players:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FczbS7FiWSM


I'm not saying these sites are definitely involved, I doubt low limits are effected much, and hell, I've even got money myself in UB, but just be careful.

[Lilred36]

I thought they had caught that guy though,and thes things were behind them.I will play there for free but I really don't make a habit outa playing there,even though I still have a bunch of AP points.

[eejit101]

I will continue tyo state that you are foolish to continue playing at these sites with your own money.

Ill play forum games and whatever if we ever have any. But to be honest a site abusing trust in this fashion cannot be trusted

[targetguy1]

they cuaght the guy. his name was Russ Hamilton. he is a former WSOP ME Champ but didnt show up this year for the TOC Game they have every year. the dude made off with the money and is long gone.

[Pokerkitty6]

These two poker rooms have had that reputation for a long time now. I'm still weary of playing there. If it happened once it can happen again. It's hard to trust any online gaming site. We love it though and we're addicted, so we keep playing!

[PANAMHIEST]

In octoberof 2007 I won a bad beat jackpot for 67k and some change. Then in the month of september that same year i won another 17k sitting at a tabl that got the bad beat, before they had it set up to where it was split between everybody at the same table type, stakes.

So thats 84k in the span of 3 months right? Well i took 45k out over the course of october through january of 2008. I played alot poker in the higher stakes cash tables such as the $5/$10 and the $10/$20 tables, as well as a decent amount of time at the $2/$4 no limit. I won quite a bit at tournaments and a few times at the cash tables, but it seems like no matter what i did i eventually couldnt have a winning session.

This is my states at another site, playing the same game i always play:

Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Ability /100 Network Filter
Blacklight 177 $1 $4 95% $249 - 71 Cake x


Over the course of those months from october 08 to january of 08, i lost around 30k in money, playing the exact same way i always play, just at higher stakes. Now during this same time period all these allegations of cheating scandels are taking place, but at the time i didnt know about it.

Well, once i started getting into the forum world and checking out news of poker, i came across this information about UB and AP and decided to check into my hand histories as well, knowing full well that i had always thought something fishy had been going on. I was one of the observers of the potripper incident, and got $500 in ccompensation for the leak of confidential informations and my ip adress and my user name which is lafate27 at AP. complete BS for compensation right? yup.

So i requested my hand history from AP everything i have ever played from the time i joined which they refuse to give me, knowing full well that i was cheated i guess, and that if i had help from others reviewing my hand history they would see that i got cheated out of thousands of dollars, all the while my information is in the hands of these cheaters right? I remember some names of people that i remember that i believed cheated me even today, A few which have gone on to be big name players at AP/UB such as southcjay and z8eldred, as well as a few others such as manuteboljr and eehore that blue donkey b@#$h. Most of these guys have dissapeared, either by changing their names, or just by deciding that the heat was too high during the cheating outbreaks, but a few are still around. I have repeatedly asked AP to investigate my allegations, and kanawake gaming commission, both give me the run around. I need help in this matter, but dont really know where to turn, and have put it on the back shelfs, hoping one day that AP or kanawake will fess up, and step up and do thier customers right. If anyone out there can derict me to someone that can be of assistance please let me know.

[turtlerox]

i think many site are having cheaters,otherwise it will lose a lot of money,cheaters are administrators or even robots who play at there tables and win always! i meet myself a few! i don't have proof about this but i am sure it was a robot1 he was extremlly lucky!

[markjfixit]

go to youtube and look up cheating at online poker or anything like that and OMG theres a ton of video on the absolute deal/potripper and countless other videos on the stuff going on.its pretty sickening and yet its interesting at the same time.