ok i could never have imagined that!.... the hug thing is great! What about her friend you have pics of on here that visited ...maybe a visit from him could do her good now....u said they were close .... she was vulnerable and got sucked into anothers demented existence... it happens ..maybe not to this degreee...but whatever.... you are dealing with it ...stick to it....she needs you to hold on to her tight now ...you are alll she has till she gets herself back....

when she says you wre mean to her.... please dont take it personal and make her express the things that made her feel that way..... things are never cut and dry ... her feelings are real ... what she says you did will not be what happened (to you) but it is how she percieved it to happen .....try to remember that your belief of how things happened are scewed also ..there is a truth and it will wind up somewhere in between.

she needs to kno we all make mistakes...and you need to own up to whatever your part was in it... do not take all the blame ..make sure she hears your side of this too ,, so she can see how you came to do what you did in this matter... you will both make mistakes in this neverending adventure you are in... make a pact that you two agree to deal with issues verbally and honestly and non judgmental with each other and that when this course of action isnt sufficient that you both agree to take it to a second party.... your wife for example....or her grandparents .. sign it make copies for alll parties to keep. You guys will get through this she is at the age of independece seeking she took a bad turn ...dont stop her from seeking independence just make sure she knows you will always be on her side and that you will always be there for her. above all tho she needs to know mutalation is not the answer and she isnt evil or bad. she used it like a drug or alcohol to run away from her depression. the key will be finding her depression trigger...could it be not having her good friend around anymore?

well gee guy ...gl

hope your friend situation clears up for him ..but u r right to go see him ..it is now your turn to help him how u can..if only to help his relatives in taking care of his property fpor him when u can. you dont need to discuss anything about his case,

free don't ever start thinking any of this is too hard to manage ..you can do this.....all the philosophy youve been handing out over the years to others....time to put some of it into action on yourself is all...your wake up call man... I know it all sound horrible and i too have no experience with mutilation but it, drugs,sex,violence, is all a diversion from reality ...reality sucks for us all at times she just needs to learn to not take it so serious ... anything , everything can be fixed .. maybe not the way you/she/us wants .. but what we can never all think alike ..all we can do is manage to not hurt each other too bad while living our best life (so oprah but couldnt find a better way to say it)

you will all be ok i just know it