hand i rescently saw on FTP...its a sick 1 outer

[KaciBlakely]

I'm not commenting on another poker hand analysis or whatever.

Clearly my poker playing sucks and I can't just play poker for fun or entertainment.

Eejit you frustrate me sometimes.

He posted for thoughts, those were my thoughts.

And I didn't win 65k$ tourney or whatever but damn, I didn't know you were a pro.

This post has many, sarcasm statements.

Hope you got that.

And for the record, I play for fun, not to become the next Durrrr or whatever.

[eejit101]

I know, im not saying im awesome.

Im saying your advice is wrong. And in no way can it be backed up.

The main thing we need to get here is there is a basic math side of poker, which is undenyable fact. If im quoting things from that side of poker, what i say is proven to be true.

However, certain plays are not math based. Read based plays and other things i can only offer advice on. This advice is in no way 100% true. It may be good advice, but theres always an arguament.

In math, there is no arguament.

this hand = math based preflop, therefore, i pointed out the facts

[KaciBlakely]

I know, im not saying im awesome.

Im saying your advice is wrong. And in no way can it be backed up.

The main thing we need to get here is there is a basic math side of poker, which is undenyable fact. If im quoting things from that side of poker, what i say is proven to be true.

However, certain plays are not math based. Read based plays and other things i can only offer advice on. This advice is in no way 100% true. It may be good advice, but theres always an arguament.

In math, there is no arguament.

this hand = math based preflop, therefore, i pointed out the facts

I know but you missed the very important thing I was trying to say in my post.

At least I think it is very important.

Some people just play based on fun and entertainment.

And if you play by entertainment and fun than you are not playing for anything more than a good time usually and if you win, great.

If not, than it's okay too because it is not a career goal for those people.

I offer advice based on my opinions and I am allowed to voice them.

Also if people play like me and you call them donks or whatever than do it, I, and we are what keep the poker economy afloat.

Not saying I deposit 100,000$ but I deposit enough to say I contribute to it.

And I was implying he was slamming me, but every poker advice thread I see and try to voice my opinion, I can't seem to do anything right.

I'm just not going to comment on them after all.

And sometimes people don't play based on the math.

They play based on emotion and their gut feelings.

Like I do. Anyways.

[eejit101]

This defence of "playing for fun" should be made illegal.

Its just code for "i suck and dont want to learn to get better"

Question - You can play for fun and win, or play for fun and lose.

Pick one. Not hard

[ffcowboy76]

I'm not commenting on another poker hand analysis or whatever.

Clearly my poker playing sucks and I can't just play poker for fun or entertainment.

Eejit you frustrate me sometimes.

He posted for thoughts, those were my thoughts.

And I didn't win 65k$ tourney or whatever but damn, I didn't know you were a pro.

This post has many, sarcasm statements.

Hope you got that.

And for the record, I play for fun, not to become the next Durrrr or whatever.

eejit's explanation after your first post was spot on. There is NO arguing with the math of poker, it is what it is and there is no changing it, unless you play with a 50 card deck. Don't take people saying you are wrong as a slam. Some of the players here know the math of poker like most people know the back of their hand. Eejit is VERY good at the math of poker. Take what he is saying and consider applying it to your game.

As I said before, if you post advise and it goes against the only know fact in poker (the math), someone is going to call you on it.

As to the hand, there is nothing wrong with calling up to 5x the bb so long as the player has 20+ bb's behind in his stack, even with 22. If you hit the set you are going to take most of the bb's in his stack and pay for the times you called and missed.