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  1. #1
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    Default 88 in SB in .5/1.00 cash game

    I know I played this hand terribly, just looking for some advice. I am in the small blind in a .5/$1 cash game and I have pocket 8's. There are three limpers already so I decide simply to call (I think this was my first mistake). Big blind checks. Flop is 8-6-5 with two hearts. I check, checked to the button. Button bets $6 I raise to $20, then the big blind raises another $20 to $40, folds back to me and I shove another ~100. Big blind only had another ~$50, but I get an insta-call. Big blind has 9-7, turn: 4 river: 3 and I'm out ~$90. Can I raise pocket 8's from the small blind preflop? I know I have to raise any flush draws out once the flop comes. What do I do when I get re-raised? Do I give him credit for 9-7 in the big blind in an un-raised pot pre-flop and fold, or should I just call and see what happens on the turn. There is 4 to a straight on the board once the turn comes making the fold easier. I realized later that shoving was really stupid because I am only getting called by a hand that beats me here. Input appreciated. Thank you.

  2. #2
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    Sounds like a twist that could have only been avoided by PF juice. However, I complete SB here as well w/ MP 100% in full ring, 25-75% SH. Nonetheless, Once BB check min 4-bet, it becomes a tight spot, as (generally) monster draw, 2 pair, and underset will tend to 4-bet shove here, rather that +20. BUT, in 100NL, I'm not seeing top set hit the muck here too often. Just a cooler.

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    Raising with a mid/low pair here preflop is crazy. Your in a multiway pot, so our getting called somewhere, and you cant raise dumb to like $10 or anything.

    75% (ish) of the time an overcard hits the flop, or more. Even if you continuation bet this move has to be -EV i think.

    So completing is spot on IMO.

    As played, on the flop i cant see any way of getting out of this.

    I like the way its played. Maybe i suck, but i do

  4. #4
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    I dont see a way to win this hand at all!!! I like the limp and i like the reraise on the flop.

    however he reraises you!! it is tough to fold top set but that was your only way to save money!! it would be hard to credited him for 97. I would of made the same play as you did and lost 90 bucks. AA-jj are beat here, two pair is crushed and lower set is crushed!!! So i would of made the call.

    just take a break and let this one go!

  5. #5
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    The biggest thing I see in this hand is that you didn't take what he was trying to tell you to heart. He checked with his first action (as did you) and the button bet pot. Your raise was a good play, showing strength post flop with top set is very good play. When the big blind re-raised you after your check raise you need to consider what he could have. There are two possible straights to consider as well as over pairs. There are 2 straights that can beat you (9/7 and 7/4) and that is it. The flush draw is possible, but I don't see a check re-raise on the flush draw. That is a -ev play as far as I can see.

    Considering what he might reraise you with, but NOT raise preflop, you can rule out AA, KK, QQ, and possible JJ. He would possible check TT, 99's, 66's, 55's and any other two cards. Looking at it that way I might just call on the flop and see if the turn pairs the board. When the 4th straight card comes, it becomes 10x easier to dump the hand and save you some cash.

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