Don't Just Play Freerolls

[targetguy1]

I did this to myself for a while after I started, and I also see others doing so quite often. It's kind of a trap that can be easy to fall into because freerolls are safe; the only cost is time.

Don't get me wrong. Freerolls are a great way to start a bankroll - when you're a newbie. But once you improve your game a little, you can expect to make more per hour playing micro-ring and small buyin tournaments. The improvement in your game doesn't have to be much; just enough so you can consistently win from the ATMs who play at those levels without giving it all back to the relatively few decent players.

The mental adjustment is definitely more significant; you have to be willing to lose money once in a while in the short term in order to gain more over the longer term.

[GloBug]

I did this to myself for a while after I started, and I also see others doing so quite often. It's kind of a trap that can be easy to fall into because freerolls are safe; the only cost is time.

Don't get me wrong. Freerolls are a great way to start a bankroll - when you're a newbie. But once you improve your game a little, you can expect to make more per hour playing micro-ring and small buyin tournaments. The improvement in your game doesn't have to be much; just enough so you can consistently win from the ATMs who play at those levels without giving it all back to the relatively few decent players.

The mental adjustment is definitely more significant; you have to be willing to lose money once in a while in the short term in order to gain more over the longer term.

well i think we all did it unless we had a nice bankroll to start. when i first started i played alot of freerolls on paradise. but then that wore off because i didnt like making like $5 an hour. play 4 hours to win $20. not worth it. i only play them when they are satellites to get into bigger tourneys. other than that i am killing time. as for the mental part of it its completely different. u need to adjust everything about your game. then playing within your bankroll is what people need to be aware of also. just because u see a $2k 1st place doesnt mean your gonna win when u surrender half of your bankroll to play then miss out on the cash. but in dues time all frerollers get better at poker and move up. its just amatter of how long the adjustment takes that will make u better at poker. so forums like this are great for that change due to all the good info that is posted here and for all the good players who play on here. well my 2 cents.

[targetguy1]

well like i was saying freerolls are a great way to start a br but you got to get away from them to get more vaule for the time you in it.

[KaciBlakely]

I agree that you have to play small buy ins and ring games are what are going to help you make money by playing online when you are starting out but you are a bit better than the freeroll players.

Well at least you are willing to put a small amount of money up to see if that theory holds true.

I think freerolls are a great way to learn while you are learning. I'll still play them and hopefully learn something when I do.

The other thing is about the time.

Your time has got to be worth something in order for you to play poker and to try to play it for a career.

If you are trying to do it career wise or if you are just doing it for entertainment is something you need to decide before you ever start playing and depositing on an online site.

If it is for fun or an extra income I believe your time has to be worth more than an average hourly job rate.

If I'm playing for an extra income source I'd want to make and average of 15$ an hour at least and for the fun because if not it's not just worth it to me.

Nice post and topic targetguy

[freeringo]

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

I have never deposited 1 dime of my own money on any Poker site in 14 years. I once had a nickle and worked my way up to $1300 in less than a month. It can be done and it is fun doing it.
It also gives you confidence working from the bottom up.

If I could add one bit of advice to new players.

Don't be a gambler in Poker unless you got money to burn.
So many players go on a small losing streak and instead of quitting for the day and regrouping, they think they have to get it back ASAP.
That's how you become broke.

Patience and long term goals are the keys to poker success.

[eejit101]

Playing poker for a career is one of the hardest things to do ever.

If making a carreer out of somewhere where you can easily lose 10 buyins to a game in a day, when your bankroll is only for 20 buyins, even im not thrilled out trying it again

[navuta]

While ago I spent more than 200$ dolar trying to build a bankroll and all I got was a huge banckruput!!! I still on debt with poker, but NDN is helping me get out of this hole...
Newbies always dos stupid things, like I did deposting lots of money on carbon.
I didnt iven knwe what I was doing...
Now Im more prepared to do better things related to poker...
NEWBIES ALways do too much of a bad thing...
NDN>>> I LOVE U!!!

[eejit101]

Navuta, when i get back later im gonna make a huge post all for you

[KaciBlakely]

I really think this an excellent thread and ringo and eejit and everyone brought up good points.

I want to know what eejit is going to post later though.

Anyone else a bit curious?

[navuta]

Yes... IM very curious...
EEjit just left for his date... I hope he makes a great job.... !!!!
I wonder what he will say...
Anyway... Im out now also..
Gonna travel today...
Gonna meet my mom... she came from Africa... she lives there... she have this crazt job there...
It has being 10 months That I dont see her.. so will be very nice to be with her...
ALL THE BEST FOR ALL OF US!!!!

[KaciBlakely]

I hope you have fun with your mom today.

Enjoy yourself.

[navuta]

hello...
hey.. ejit u said u would right a responce to me??
where is it?
How was your date..
..

[eejit101]

Crap, im sorry, im watching something, ill do it later man, remind me

[KaciBlakely]

Damn. Hopefully when you get back online you will post.

I'll try to remember to remind you.

I remembered to come back and look at this thread but there is no article/anything from you on this.

Eejit you'll do it later guaranteed, right?

Hopefully

[navuta]

hello....
Where is the tread u talk about your dateting??
And the tread u said u would right especially for me???

[freeringo]

hello....
Where is the tread u talk about your dateting??
And the tread u said u would right especially for me???

u up early Andre
u mom still sleeping?

Eejit hasn't mentioned 1 word about his date.

Wondering why.

[KaciBlakely]

Maybe he had a bad experience and she ended up being a man.

But would eejit classify that as a bad experiment?

hmm, we'll just have to wait.

[freeringo]

Maybe he had a bad experience and she ended up being a man.

But would eejit classify that as a bad experiment?

hmm, we'll just have to wait.

Reasons why Eejit is not talking about his date on Wednesday?

answer is here

[eejit101]

Real answer is there too.

Im all talk before something happens, but after it you cant make as much stuff up

[KaciBlakely]

I saw that just before you posted this, I think.

Well Idon't know exactly when you posted this.

But you get my point.

Glad she rescheduled for him, and didn't let our eej down.

[badaace1973]

I totally agree with you freerolls can be nice bankroll builders but the quality of players is so low that you can actually get to playing worse because of it so play better competition so your game will improve.

[navuta]

hey...Im still whating what eejit has to say to me about freerolls..
any suggestions???
any hint out there...

so....hope to hear about what ejit has to say.....

[KaciBlakely]

I don't know navuta.

It looks like eejit has logged off but I was looking forward to him writing a post too.

Maybe he will do so later tonight.


I'll look forward to it.

[eejit101]

I know, and its not about freerolls.

I do have other things to do you know!

I spent enough time reading threads as it is