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    well i am gonna make it short and sweet. i am completely for it due to our situation with foster care and homeless children. so for instance a crackhead mom wants to have a abortion and your gonna tell her no so some one lese can take care of a crack head baby that will mmore than likely have health and mental problems which will inturn have a affect on our healthcare system and tax payers money. we have more pressing things to worry about that abortion. it should be a persons right to do what they want with a fetus if they dont have the means to have one or if ti was not a child that is wanted. mistakes do happen to young and older people. u know a few drinks and then boom im preggo. thats not a good situtaion to bring a child into. is it? but anyways i am for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloBug View Post
    well i am gonna make it short and sweet. i am completely for it due to our situation with foster care and homeless children. so for instance a crackhead mom wants to have a abortion and your gonna tell her no so some one lese can take care of a crack head baby that will mmore than likely have health and mental problems which will inturn have a affect on our healthcare system and tax payers money. we have more pressing things to worry about that abortion. it should be a persons right to do what they want with a fetus if they dont have the means to have one or if ti was not a child that is wanted. mistakes do happen to young and older people. u know a few drinks and then boom im preggo. thats not a good situtaion to bring a child into. is it? but anyways i am for it.
    See, I disagree that the child of a crack baby will more than likely have health issues if adopted. You are correct in the assertion that babies born to that circumstance have troubles, but I suspect that those troubles are caused not merely by being born to a crack addicted mother, but rather by the neglect and abuse suffered by the child as it grows. That enviorment is terrible for the baby. But adoptive parents, who strive to provide a wonderful and loving enviorment for the baby to grow up in, can help overcome that adversity. It's simply not the case that they will be damaged for life. Now damage can occur in the womb due to drug use. If that truly is the case then the doctors should determine the best plan for the welfare of the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klinkman View Post
    See, I disagree that the child of a crack baby will more than likely have health issues if adopted. You are correct in the assertion that babies born to that circumstance have troubles, but I suspect that those troubles are caused not merely by being born to a crack addicted mother, but rather by the neglect and abuse suffered by the child as it grows. That enviorment is terrible for the baby. But adoptive parents, who strive to provide a wonderful and loving enviorment for the baby to grow up in, can help overcome that adversity. It's simply not the case that they will be damaged for life. Now damage can occur in the womb due to drug use. If that truly is the case then the doctors should determine the best plan for the welfare of the child.
    well the odds are against them when they are born into this world. and more than likely it leads to prison or drugs them self. either way it is a burden. to those of you that dont have kids i donthink really know how hard it is to rear a kid the right way. it takes alot of time and effert and those are things that we cant afford with the way things are now a days. they are a product of there enviroment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloBug View Post
    well the odds are against them when they are born into this world. and more than likely it leads to prison or drugs them self. either way it is a burden. to those of you that dont have kids i donthink really know how hard it is to rear a kid the right way. it takes alot of time and effert and those are things that we cant afford with the way things are now a days. they are a product of there enviroment.
    I know that it takes time and lots of hard work to have and raise kids, especially in this tough economy. That's why I advocate being educated and using protection so you don't have kids until you know you're ready. I just read one of your posts to Kylee'sMommy about how the decision to have a child and if it's the right time should be up to the parents. I agree with that wholeheartedly, and like I said the way to go about that is education and safe sex. It doesn't take a parent to know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylovesthebeatles View Post
    I know that it takes time and lots of hard work to have and raise kids, especially in this tough economy. That's why I advocate being educated and using protection so you don't have kids until you know you're ready. I just read one of your posts to Kylee'sMommy about how the decision to have a child and if it's the right time should be up to the parents. I agree with that wholeheartedly, and like I said the way to go about that is education and safe sex. It doesn't take a parent to know that.
    well i dont think education has done anything due to the enormous amount of kids having children now adays. i havent personally had to abort a child but i have had a friend a female that has had to do it. she was really responsible but a night of drinking and unpreotected sex led to a child that she wasnt ready for and neither was the guy that she had just met. it happens.

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    Im not sure if i am oversimplyfying it, or making a wrong assumption. But is it safe to say that women one the whole are against it, and men on the whole are for it? Its makes sense to me, what with a womans inclination of compassion and nurturing, and a mans inclination for neccessity and providing.

    This is quite easily one of those debates where both sides can make very sound arguements.... so in that sense, how can anyone be right or wrong. I think the bread and butter idea here is: each situation would call for something different, so to say one way is right or wrong is just inconsiderate. In some occaisions abortion may be the right thing to do, despite the hardships on the man and woman (particularly the woman... all those biological changes that begin to occur just stop. I dont know from exp, but i can certainly imagine the toll thatd take on a womans body and mind). And in other cases, like targets, if you can find a family, spend time with them to make sure theyre righteous/compassionate or whatever, and can do it with dignity and respect, then it is NOW the right thing to do.

    "I dont know whats its like in other countries or in other parts of the usa (and i have a feeling ill make some enemies with this one, but i promise you im not speaking outta spite) but there are some woman who will lie to a man, simply to get pregnant and keep the child, regardles of the fact that they are able. I can safely say that at least 50 of teh 250+ people in my former senior class have a kid in poor circumstance(im 23). I can think of a dozen instances where my friends are dating a girl, the girl LIES about contrceptives, theyre plan the whole to have a kid with anyone, to give their life "meaning" I know it sounds harsh, and im kinda a cynic, but i swear to you, particularly recently, ive been seeing it...
    it works out so; the crazy b*tch gets pregnant to give her life value, with a man she really doesnt love. They have the kid, both resenting it and each other, and then the spiral continues. That kid grow up with hate in their heart because their parents never wanted them, and they go out and do the same thing... its an endless cycle..."

    Id love to hear other ppls opinions about what im saying ^^ in particular. I have a certain conviction in what im saying, but i very well could be tainted by my experiences, and i want to hear what others have to say about it " ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0maxpower0 View Post
    Im not sure if i am oversimplyfying it, or making a wrong assumption. But is it safe to say that women one the whole are against it, and men on the whole are for it? Its makes sense to me, what with a womans inclination of compassion and nurturing, and a mans inclination for neccessity and providing.

    Id love to hear other ppls opinions about what im saying ^^ in particular. I have a certain conviction in what im saying, but i very well could be tainted by my experiences, and i want to hear what others have to say about it " ".
    I don't necessarily believe that women as a whole are against it, or for it.

    I don't think you can generalize a population of people like that.

    I've known many men who were disappointed to come to find that their partners had gotten an abortion without telling them, and different situations like that.

    Maybe I am over playing how many times this happens, but I assure you it does.

    That's just my opinion on that.

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