Who agree with abortion?

[taylovesthebeatles]

Even though I am a woman, I am opposed to abortion, especially as a form of birth control, as many of you have already expressed. Contraception in this country is for the most part cheap, widely available, and legal, and in my mind the possible consequences of not using protection unless you're trying to conceive are as widely known and understood as the dangers of smoking nicotine. I really have no sympathy for teenagers who engage in unprotected sex and get knocked up, when they should know better and have protected themselves in the first place. In addition, if you're older and even married, but you don't feel that you are financially or otherwise able to raise a child, then you also should be using protection. That part of it is just common sense. If you don't get that then in my opinion you shouldn't be doing the deed.

I do know, however, that accidents happen sometimes and people do get pregnant even when they take precaution against it. I have a good friend who, as she puts it, is the "result of birth control and a condom". Even the most careful people can get pregnant, though if you're protecting yourself properly the chances of it happening are extremely slim. In situations like that, though it is difficult, my answer is to give the child up for adoption. The friend I was talking about is one of those children who was adopted out at birth, and I know her parents were overjoyed to be able to have the opportunity to have a child, even if it wasn't one of their own biologically.

The only situations for me as to whether the option of abortion should even be on the table are in instances of rape or for the health of the mother. I'm inclined to say that for rape victims, they should be able to have access to an easier adoption, but I've never been raped, let alone been impregnated by a rapist and "forced" to carry that child to term and give birth to it, so I can't really say how someone in that situation "should" or is most likely to feel about having a baby that they, unlike those who voluntarily engage in sexual intercourse without protection, had no control or say in creating.

As far as the health of the mother is concerned, again this issue involves a bit of religious faith and belief for me. From my perspective, as I've said before, everything happens to us for a reason, and though it may sound cruel, I don't necessarily think it's okay to play God as I've said before and make that decision as to whose life is more important and worth saving, the baby or the mother. I'm inclined in those situations to just say let nature take its course, but at the same time I don't think every woman feels the same way I do about this (even though I'm not completely sure how I feel myself) and if there's a chance that aborting one baby who has no chance of survival anyway will give the mother the chance to live and hopefully produce more children, then maybe the baby should be aborted to save the life of the mother.

As a person who is short in stature, I know that any pregnancy I have, if I am able to carry a child to term at all, will be extremely risky, and klinkman and I have discussed what we would do if this kind of situation happened to us, where the presence of the growing baby inside me endangered the lives of both of us somehow. We're both pro-life, but he has said that in this situation he'd ultimately leave the decision up to me, as I'd be the one pregnant with the baby. I'm still not sure what my decision would be, but it is for these reasons that I don't think abortion *as a medical procedure only, not birth control* should be made illegal.

A couple final, smaller points. Firstly, I know that some of my own personal views on abortion are somewhat based on a belief in God who values human life, but I don't think that these views should be taken into account when a doctor who is legally able to perform an abortion is faced with a patient seeking the procedure for what I feel to likely be legitimate reasons, even if that person is not of the age of majority. I read a news story the other day about how Alabama I believe is seeking to tighten its restrictions on abortions, and one rule they are considering implementing is that a doctor can legally refuse to perform an abortion on a religious or personally moral basis. I really don't think that is right at all. Secondly, as I have stated before, I am also against the death penalty, and I am really irked by the hypocrisy of many anti-death penalty advocates who at the same time support abortion, and are often pro-choice, which I define as supporting the use of abortion as birth control or "family planning". Even if someone explains the difference to me as they see it, I'm not sure that I'll ever get it. So call me weird if you want, but at the end of the day I am opposed to abortion.

[GloBug]

well i am gonna make it short and sweet. i am completely for it due to our situation with foster care and homeless children. so for instance a crackhead mom wants to have a abortion and your gonna tell her no so some one lese can take care of a crack head baby that will mmore than likely have health and mental problems which will inturn have a affect on our healthcare system and tax payers money. we have more pressing things to worry about that abortion. it should be a persons right to do what they want with a fetus if they dont have the means to have one or if ti was not a child that is wanted. mistakes do happen to young and older people. u know a few drinks and then boom im preggo. thats not a good situtaion to bring a child into. is it? but anyways i am for it.

[klinkman]

well i am gonna make it short and sweet. i am completely for it due to our situation with foster care and homeless children. so for instance a crackhead mom wants to have a abortion and your gonna tell her no so some one lese can take care of a crack head baby that will mmore than likely have health and mental problems which will inturn have a affect on our healthcare system and tax payers money. we have more pressing things to worry about that abortion. it should be a persons right to do what they want with a fetus if they dont have the means to have one or if ti was not a child that is wanted. mistakes do happen to young and older people. u know a few drinks and then boom im preggo. thats not a good situtaion to bring a child into. is it? but anyways i am for it.

See, I disagree that the child of a crack baby will more than likely have health issues if adopted. You are correct in the assertion that babies born to that circumstance have troubles, but I suspect that those troubles are caused not merely by being born to a crack addicted mother, but rather by the neglect and abuse suffered by the child as it grows. That enviorment is terrible for the baby. But adoptive parents, who strive to provide a wonderful and loving enviorment for the baby to grow up in, can help overcome that adversity. It's simply not the case that they will be damaged for life. Now damage can occur in the womb due to drug use. If that truly is the case then the doctors should determine the best plan for the welfare of the child.

[GloBug]

See, I disagree that the child of a crack baby will more than likely have health issues if adopted. You are correct in the assertion that babies born to that circumstance have troubles, but I suspect that those troubles are caused not merely by being born to a crack addicted mother, but rather by the neglect and abuse suffered by the child as it grows. That enviorment is terrible for the baby. But adoptive parents, who strive to provide a wonderful and loving enviorment for the baby to grow up in, can help overcome that adversity. It's simply not the case that they will be damaged for life. Now damage can occur in the womb due to drug use. If that truly is the case then the doctors should determine the best plan for the welfare of the child.

well the odds are against them when they are born into this world. and more than likely it leads to prison or drugs them self. either way it is a burden. to those of you that dont have kids i donthink really know how hard it is to rear a kid the right way. it takes alot of time and effert and those are things that we cant afford with the way things are now a days. they are a product of there enviroment.

[taylovesthebeatles]

well the odds are against them when they are born into this world. and more than likely it leads to prison or drugs them self. either way it is a burden. to those of you that dont have kids i donthink really know how hard it is to rear a kid the right way. it takes alot of time and effert and those are things that we cant afford with the way things are now a days. they are a product of there enviroment.

I know that it takes time and lots of hard work to have and raise kids, especially in this tough economy. That's why I advocate being educated and using protection so you don't have kids until you know you're ready. I just read one of your posts to Kylee'sMommy about how the decision to have a child and if it's the right time should be up to the parents. I agree with that wholeheartedly, and like I said the way to go about that is education and safe sex. It doesn't take a parent to know that.

[GloBug]

I know that it takes time and lots of hard work to have and raise kids, especially in this tough economy. That's why I advocate being educated and using protection so you don't have kids until you know you're ready. I just read one of your posts to Kylee'sMommy about how the decision to have a child and if it's the right time should be up to the parents. I agree with that wholeheartedly, and like I said the way to go about that is education and safe sex. It doesn't take a parent to know that.

well i dont think education has done anything due to the enormous amount of kids having children now adays. i havent personally had to abort a child but i have had a friend a female that has had to do it. she was really responsible but a night of drinking and unpreotected sex led to a child that she wasnt ready for and neither was the guy that she had just met. it happens.

[0maxpower0]

Im not sure if i am oversimplyfying it, or making a wrong assumption. But is it safe to say that women one the whole are against it, and men on the whole are for it? Its makes sense to me, what with a womans inclination of compassion and nurturing, and a mans inclination for neccessity and providing.

This is quite easily one of those debates where both sides can make very sound arguements.... so in that sense, how can anyone be right or wrong. I think the bread and butter idea here is: each situation would call for something different, so to say one way is right or wrong is just inconsiderate. In some occaisions abortion may be the right thing to do, despite the hardships on the man and woman (particularly the woman... all those biological changes that begin to occur just stop. I dont know from exp, but i can certainly imagine the toll thatd take on a womans body and mind). And in other cases, like targets, if you can find a family, spend time with them to make sure theyre righteous/compassionate or whatever, and can do it with dignity and respect, then it is NOW the right thing to do.

"I dont know whats its like in other countries or in other parts of the usa (and i have a feeling ill make some enemies with this one, but i promise you im not speaking outta spite) but there are some woman who will lie to a man, simply to get pregnant and keep the child, regardles of the fact that they are able. I can safely say that at least 50 of teh 250+ people in my former senior class have a kid in poor circumstance(im 23). I can think of a dozen instances where my friends are dating a girl, the girl LIES about contrceptives, theyre plan the whole to have a kid with anyone, to give their life "meaning" I know it sounds harsh, and im kinda a cynic, but i swear to you, particularly recently, ive been seeing it...
it works out so; the crazy b*tch gets pregnant to give her life value, with a man she really doesnt love. They have the kid, both resenting it and each other, and then the spiral continues. That kid grow up with hate in their heart because their parents never wanted them, and they go out and do the same thing... its an endless cycle..."

Id love to hear other ppls opinions about what im saying ^^ in particular. I have a certain conviction in what im saying, but i very well could be tainted by my experiences, and i want to hear what others have to say about it " ".

[KaciBlakely]

Im not sure if i am oversimplyfying it, or making a wrong assumption. But is it safe to say that women one the whole are against it, and men on the whole are for it? Its makes sense to me, what with a womans inclination of compassion and nurturing, and a mans inclination for neccessity and providing.

Id love to hear other ppls opinions about what im saying ^^ in particular. I have a certain conviction in what im saying, but i very well could be tainted by my experiences, and i want to hear what others have to say about it " ".

I don't necessarily believe that women as a whole are against it, or for it.

I don't think you can generalize a population of people like that.

I've known many men who were disappointed to come to find that their partners had gotten an abortion without telling them, and different situations like that.

Maybe I am over playing how many times this happens, but I assure you it does.

That's just my opinion on that.