Who agree with abortion?

[navuta]

In brasil abortion is completly ilegal. What I think it is a shame..
The poor countrys has abortion as Ilegal, wile the rich ones can make it legal..
I think abortion should be legal all over the world.. While the fetus are on the woman womb it is her decision to have it or not..
I haveing a big trouble here trying to find a legal way for abortion.
sad but true. My country laws sucks...

What u people think about it?
I would love to have a child, but my girl dont whant to, so I agree with her.!

[klinkman]

well i am gonna make it short and sweet. i am completely for it due to our situation with foster care and homeless children. so for instance a crackhead mom wants to have a abortion and your gonna tell her no so some one lese can take care of a crack head baby that will mmore than likely have health and mental problems which will inturn have a affect on our healthcare system and tax payers money. we have more pressing things to worry about that abortion. it should be a persons right to do what they want with a fetus if they dont have the means to have one or if ti was not a child that is wanted. mistakes do happen to young and older people. u know a few drinks and then boom im preggo. thats not a good situtaion to bring a child into. is it? but anyways i am for it.

See, I disagree that the child of a crack baby will more than likely have health issues if adopted. You are correct in the assertion that babies born to that circumstance have troubles, but I suspect that those troubles are caused not merely by being born to a crack addicted mother, but rather by the neglect and abuse suffered by the child as it grows. That enviorment is terrible for the baby. But adoptive parents, who strive to provide a wonderful and loving enviorment for the baby to grow up in, can help overcome that adversity. It's simply not the case that they will be damaged for life. Now damage can occur in the womb due to drug use. If that truly is the case then the doctors should determine the best plan for the welfare of the child.

[GloBug]

See, I disagree that the child of a crack baby will more than likely have health issues if adopted. You are correct in the assertion that babies born to that circumstance have troubles, but I suspect that those troubles are caused not merely by being born to a crack addicted mother, but rather by the neglect and abuse suffered by the child as it grows. That enviorment is terrible for the baby. But adoptive parents, who strive to provide a wonderful and loving enviorment for the baby to grow up in, can help overcome that adversity. It's simply not the case that they will be damaged for life. Now damage can occur in the womb due to drug use. If that truly is the case then the doctors should determine the best plan for the welfare of the child.

well the odds are against them when they are born into this world. and more than likely it leads to prison or drugs them self. either way it is a burden. to those of you that dont have kids i donthink really know how hard it is to rear a kid the right way. it takes alot of time and effert and those are things that we cant afford with the way things are now a days. they are a product of there enviroment.

[taylovesthebeatles]

well the odds are against them when they are born into this world. and more than likely it leads to prison or drugs them self. either way it is a burden. to those of you that dont have kids i donthink really know how hard it is to rear a kid the right way. it takes alot of time and effert and those are things that we cant afford with the way things are now a days. they are a product of there enviroment.

I know that it takes time and lots of hard work to have and raise kids, especially in this tough economy. That's why I advocate being educated and using protection so you don't have kids until you know you're ready. I just read one of your posts to Kylee'sMommy about how the decision to have a child and if it's the right time should be up to the parents. I agree with that wholeheartedly, and like I said the way to go about that is education and safe sex. It doesn't take a parent to know that.

[GloBug]

I know that it takes time and lots of hard work to have and raise kids, especially in this tough economy. That's why I advocate being educated and using protection so you don't have kids until you know you're ready. I just read one of your posts to Kylee'sMommy about how the decision to have a child and if it's the right time should be up to the parents. I agree with that wholeheartedly, and like I said the way to go about that is education and safe sex. It doesn't take a parent to know that.

well i dont think education has done anything due to the enormous amount of kids having children now adays. i havent personally had to abort a child but i have had a friend a female that has had to do it. she was really responsible but a night of drinking and unpreotected sex led to a child that she wasnt ready for and neither was the guy that she had just met. it happens.

[KaciBlakely]

If your not ready to be mother then take the steps to prevent it. Just cuz someone isnt ready to become a mother doesnt mean someone out there who cant have a child isnt. Life is a beautiful thing that most young and imature people dont and will never understand.

I understand this line of thinking. Believe me I do. But I would still rather you use birth control, contraception, anything but do this as a personal choice but as a choice for others, it is their decision and it is something legal.

Just because I agree that it is okay with given circumstances doesn't make me an evil person though.

In China it is used as a population control method.

Not that, that fact was important but I through it in there anyway.

[targetguy1]

I understand this line of thinking. Believe me I do. But I would still rather you use birth control, contraception, anything but do this as a personal choice but as a choice for others, it is their decision and it is something legal.

Just because I agree that it is okay with given circumstances doesn't make me an evil person though.

In China it is used as a population control method.

Not that, that fact was important but I through it in there anyway.

to me if your not ready then why wait til you prego to do something about it. my points is protect yourself so you dont have to have a abortion. just cuz its legal in some place doesnt mean its right.

[GloBug]

to me if your not ready then why wait til you prego to do something about it. my points is protect yourself so you dont have to have a abortion. just cuz its legal in some place doesnt mean its right.

well protection isnt available to all of us. its not really a thought in the ghettos of america. thats were it mostly happens. say what u want it should be our right to choose. y does someone have to tell you what u cant do with your offspring. thats what leads to welfare and the other economy draining things.

[KaciBlakely]

to me if your not ready then why wait til you prego to do something about it. my points is protect yourself so you dont have to have a abortion. just cuz its legal in some place doesnt mean its right.

You also have to understand that, that is your opinion. For me, smoking pot is illegal but that doesn't mean it's wrong.

It's the vice versa of your sentence above but you probably agree with it based on posts earlier about pot.

Just because it's my opinion and it's different than yours, you don't have to say it isn't right.

And I understand it's your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

I don't think this thread really changed anything but it's something good to open up your minds and to talk about so I'm okay with that.

[targetguy1]

well protection isnt available to all of us. its not really a thought in the ghettos of america. thats were it mostly happens. say what u want it should be our right to choose. y does someone have to tell you what u cant do with your offspring. thats what leads to welfare and the other economy draining things.

proctection isnt available to all of us. that is a bunch of bs. any female can go to the doctor and get free condoms. i know its not 100% gtd you wont get prego but the problem is they wont do it. most people rather not wear condoms due to the fact it doesnt fell the same. you could come up with a better excuse rather then saying protection isnt available. that like say i went to the food market and they didnt have any food so i straved.

[KaciBlakely]

proctection isnt available to all of us. that is a bunch of bs. any female can go to the doctor and get free condoms. i know its not 100% gtd you wont get prego but the problem is they wont do it. most people rather not wear condoms due to the fact it doesnt fell the same. you could come up with a better excuse rather then saying protection isnt available. that like say i went to the food market and they didnt have any food so i straved.

That was a bit harsh. I can't believe I'm doing this, but I might be standing up for Globug.

Anyways I think I get both of your sides and before this turns into a crazy argument you guys are both entitled to your opinion so yeah.

Just don't be so harsh, with it, target and it'll be all good.

All though the last part was kinda lmfao, so I starved!

I found that funny for some reason.

[GloBug]

proctection isnt available to all of us. that is a bunch of bs. any female can go to the doctor and get free condoms. i know its not 100% gtd you wont get prego but the problem is they wont do it. most people rather not wear condoms due to the fact it doesnt fell the same. you could come up with a better excuse rather then saying protection isnt available. that like say i went to the food market and they didnt have any food so i straved.

well i dont know where u live in ny but when u liv ein a area where there is high crime and high drug use using or getting condoms is the last thing on your mind. u cant get them everywhere . for those who dont have health care just cant go to a doctor. like i said it isnt available for everyone. i think u live in a box and u dont think that we have problems with things like this. they are not readily available to everyone.. tell me this where in the hood do u see a free clinic. ive never seen one and i have lived in a hood. bro u got alot of things to learn about. i know they are avialable but just not to everyone. as for your refernce with food. thats a not a good way to explain yourself. no comparison.

[targetguy1]

well i dont know where u live in ny but when u liv ein a area where there is high crime and high drug use using or getting condoms is the last thing on your mind. u cant get them everywhere . for those who dont have health care just cant go to a doctor. like i said it isnt available for everyone. i think u live in a box and u dont think that we have problems with things like this. they are not readily available to everyone.. tell me this where in the hood do u see a free clinic. ive never seen one and i have lived in a hood. bro u got alot of things to learn about. i know they are avialable but just not to everyone. as for your refernce with food. thats a not a good way to explain yourself. no comparison.

so what your saying in the HOOD you can get free housing and food for the kids but no one will provide you with a condom? come on thats a lame and you know it is. if people cant handle the resposiblity of what can happen after sex unprotected then stop having it. its that simple. and most of these people who you say live in the hood can get some form of healthcare. there is all types of assistance out there to help people get health insurances. to me it comes down to people just being lazy or they just dont care.

[GloBug]

so what your saying in the HOOD you can get free housing and food for the kids but no one will provide you with a condom? come on thats a lame and you know it is. if people cant handle the resposiblity of what can happen after sex unprotected then stop having it. its that simple. and most of these people who you say live in the hood can get some form of healthcare. there is all types of assistance out there to help people get health insurances. to me it comes down to people just being lazy or they just dont care.

your wrong all wrong. healthcare isnt as easy to get as u think it is. and how can u say to stop having sex. lol what a joke. whatever im done with it. your right u know it all. nothing is a simple as YOU think.

[targetguy1]

your wrong all wrong. healthcare isnt as easy to get as u think it is. and how can u say to stop having sex. lol what a joke. whatever im done with it. your right u know it all. nothing is a simple as YOU think.

how about we just agree to disagree?

[Pokerkitty6]

I personally do believe in abortions. Everyone has a choice about all aspects of life and death. Not everyone in the world needs to breed. Things happen and oops, we're pregnant, no matter the age, but the opinion that has been taught to them, they feel they have to go thru with it. Everyone says the bible is against abortion. Well the bible is also against pre-maritial sex, against sex for fornication. Sex is ok to make a baby. Well I know alot of Christians who have sex and don't want a baby. The same people who are against abortion are the same people taking their pets to shelters because they didn't get them spayed or neutered. Sometimes we treat the animals better than humans and do whats best for them. We never make the animal suffer, but we will tell young teenagers, you made your bed now lie in it. Mistakes are made everyday and there are solutions. Forced adoption hurts the teenager, as well as the child. They grow up thinking nobody wants them, etc. I feel each individual has a choice with everything they do in life and thats just it-it's their choice and nobody elses. I am for abortion if it is best for that particular individual.

[navuta]

I personally do believe in abortions. Everyone has a choice about all aspects of life and death. Not everyone in the world needs to breed. Things happen and oops, we're pregnant, no matter the age, but the opinion that has been taught to them, they feel they have to go thru with it. Everyone says the bible is against abortion. Well the bible is also against pre-maritial sex, against sex for fornication. Sex is ok to make a baby. Well I know alot of Christians who have sex and don't want a baby. The same people who are against abortion are the same people taking their pets to shelters because they didn't get them spayed or neutered. Sometimes we treat the animals better than humans and do whats best for them. We never make the animal suffer, but we will tell young teenagers, you made your bed now lie in it. Mistakes are made everyday and there are solutions. Forced adoption hurts the teenager, as well as the child. They grow up thinking nobody wants them, etc. I feel each individual has a choice with everything they do in life and thats just it-it's their choice and nobody elses. I am for abortion if it is best for that particular individual.

Very good points...
I agree with u saying that we must have options to care about our own life and whatelse... So, anyway, I would really love to have a child.
I hope I can have an child soon. And that my girls agree with me...
Anyway.. Thank u everybody for your comments...
I would like to hear from ringo now.. What he thinks about abortion..
Anyway.. He has a very nice girl... What fells to be a father???

Life is great... If we can handle it!!!

[KaciBlakely]

This is really my opinion on the situation.

The bible and religion in general has no say in the law.

It's called seperation of church and state.

If our law officials want to make it legal, than it is legal, and in that thinking no one is thinking of what God or Jesus or Allah would think and everything, they are just making new laws.

To put the influence of religion into a decision is up to the individual but that is not what these officials are thinking about for the majority of it.

[0maxpower0]

Im not sure if i am oversimplyfying it, or making a wrong assumption. But is it safe to say that women one the whole are against it, and men on the whole are for it? Its makes sense to me, what with a womans inclination of compassion and nurturing, and a mans inclination for neccessity and providing.

This is quite easily one of those debates where both sides can make very sound arguements.... so in that sense, how can anyone be right or wrong. I think the bread and butter idea here is: each situation would call for something different, so to say one way is right or wrong is just inconsiderate. In some occaisions abortion may be the right thing to do, despite the hardships on the man and woman (particularly the woman... all those biological changes that begin to occur just stop. I dont know from exp, but i can certainly imagine the toll thatd take on a womans body and mind). And in other cases, like targets, if you can find a family, spend time with them to make sure theyre righteous/compassionate or whatever, and can do it with dignity and respect, then it is NOW the right thing to do.

"I dont know whats its like in other countries or in other parts of the usa (and i have a feeling ill make some enemies with this one, but i promise you im not speaking outta spite) but there are some woman who will lie to a man, simply to get pregnant and keep the child, regardles of the fact that they are able. I can safely say that at least 50 of teh 250+ people in my former senior class have a kid in poor circumstance(im 23). I can think of a dozen instances where my friends are dating a girl, the girl LIES about contrceptives, theyre plan the whole to have a kid with anyone, to give their life "meaning" I know it sounds harsh, and im kinda a cynic, but i swear to you, particularly recently, ive been seeing it...
it works out so; the crazy b*tch gets pregnant to give her life value, with a man she really doesnt love. They have the kid, both resenting it and each other, and then the spiral continues. That kid grow up with hate in their heart because their parents never wanted them, and they go out and do the same thing... its an endless cycle..."

Id love to hear other ppls opinions about what im saying ^^ in particular. I have a certain conviction in what im saying, but i very well could be tainted by my experiences, and i want to hear what others have to say about it " ".

[KaciBlakely]

Im not sure if i am oversimplyfying it, or making a wrong assumption. But is it safe to say that women one the whole are against it, and men on the whole are for it? Its makes sense to me, what with a womans inclination of compassion and nurturing, and a mans inclination for neccessity and providing.

Id love to hear other ppls opinions about what im saying ^^ in particular. I have a certain conviction in what im saying, but i very well could be tainted by my experiences, and i want to hear what others have to say about it " ".

I don't necessarily believe that women as a whole are against it, or for it.

I don't think you can generalize a population of people like that.

I've known many men who were disappointed to come to find that their partners had gotten an abortion without telling them, and different situations like that.

Maybe I am over playing how many times this happens, but I assure you it does.

That's just my opinion on that.