Why did the short stack limp in from the 1st position?

[eejit101]

This is a poker thread.

Ill argue any poker desicions i see as wrong if i know they are wrong because it HELPS your game.

If you thought any of what you wrote is true, and then read my response (which i put alot of thought into) then youll know i am helping, as my reply there is very fitting, very true, and very factual.

[KaciBlakely]

But maybe the guys was thinking like I was. It doesn't mean he wasn't so I was adding my thoughts to it.

It just seems like you are trying to deliberlately disregard everything I write in this community and you never argue with other people like this. I was just trying to help I guess I won't post in these threads though because my opinion is obviously wrong, oh wise one.

[eejit101]

lol. weird comment im about to make but ok...

In theory, there is no way he can be thinking this way. The donk move is to push here, the level 1/2/3 move is to push. The only play that is a limp/call is the Levle 4 good player move.

im just saying i could guarantee you this move was his intent.

In a poker sense this very standard as a poker thread response. IT is nothing personal, and your opinion here is very welcome.

If everyone posted an opinion, wheteher it is their own or just a theory, it allows for more advice and more thoughts behind plays.

Which is why im grateful for your response as otherwise i wouldnt have had a way to say what i said.

Its not a personal attack, its a poker response based on what you said.

Whether you would play like what u said is up to you. All i can advise is please dont, its not good for winning.

Noones opinion in poker is technically wrong, thats why its great to discuss. I hoping every time i write someone argues something ive written so we can debate sides of it and make it into something we can all learn from.

Every time i write a response i think about it nd learn as im writing it, and learn from what other write.

[freeringo]

lol. weird comment im about to make but ok...

In theory, there is no way he can be thinking this way. The donk move is to push here, the level 1/2/3 move is to push. The only play that is a limp/call is the Levle 4 good player move.

im just saying i could guarantee you this move was his intent.

In a poker sense this very standard as a poker thread response. IT is nothing personal, and your opinion here is very welcome.

If everyone posted an opinion, wheteher it is their own or just a theory, it allows for more advice and more thoughts behind plays.

Which is why im grateful for your response as otherwise i wouldnt have had a way to say what i said.

Its not a personal attack, its a poker response based on what you said.

Whether you would play like what u said is up to you. All i can advise is please dont, its not good for winning.

Noones opinion in poker is technically wrong, thats why its great to discuss. I hoping every time i write someone argues something ive written so we can debate sides of it and make it into something we can all learn from.

Every time i write a response i think about it nd learn as im writing it, and learn from what other write.

I have thought about that play over and over and the only logical conclusion is intentional play. Considering his chip stack comparrison
and only 5 players left. It was a very risky move by him. I would have raised everytime in that situation. A raise would eaither pick up the blinds and put him with a strong chip count or someone calls the raise and at least I know where I am at mostly. If his intention was to trap and get all his chips in. I believe he made a very poor play.

[ffcowboy76]

First, I think his play was an intentional limp with the hopes of a late push from a big stack so he can double. If he pushes preflop he figures any caller has a hand that could beat him, however, if he calls a late push their starting hand range is greatly lowered. The example is exactly what he wanted to have happen.

On to the "personal attack" portion of this thread. People need to understand that while not everyone plays the "proper" method of poker, others do. Some of the players that don't play the "proper" way want to learn that method. If I were to post something that wasn't "proper" I EXPECT someone to tell me so. More often than not, the "proper" play is based on math and can be supported by a long string of mathematical problems proving that play. Part of the point of this section is to allow people to get different opinions about why someone made what ever play they made, but most are looking to improve their game to prevent future problems like the one that caused them to post in this section.

[freeringo]

Welcome back Cowboy

I still have a hard time seeing the logic in slow playing and hoping to double up there. If I were in his positon, I would have pushed all in hoping no one called and making the money.

A showdown is the last thing on my mind when I am on the bubble and short stack.

[ffcowboy76]

Being late in a tournament, the big stacks usually try to push the little stacks around. With this knowledge, the UTG short stack can limp call knowing that most big stacks will push any face card. I've seen it used before and have used it myself to gain a double late in a tournament when I really need it.