The New Cell Phone Law

[0maxpower0]

the government has no right to do this kind of thing. Whether you agree with it or not, the constitution doesnt grant the federal government the right to prohibit you from talking on your cell phone whlie driving. Its been proven that driving a car while sleep deprieved affects your driving and decision making abilities as bad as or worse than if you were intoxicated to a degree that you were over the legal limit, so with that logic, they should be able to give you a ticket for driving while sleepy... doesnt matter that the law will undoubtedly cut down on the auto accidents, by how much is debateable, the governent just doesnt have the right to do that, and thats all there is to it.

OH and to Bn.. if you just dont admit to doing the thing the officer is accusing you of, you save a lot of time. So when asked were you (over the speed limit, talking on a cell phone, shaving, etc.) all you have to do is say no. If you say that you di the illegal thing, you waive your fifth amendment right to self incrimination, and ur prty much screwed) Also if they ask to search just say that you dont consent. Even if they try to linguistically trick you by asking do you mind if i search you car (most poeple would say no, which is actuallyt an affirmation to search it), anyway yea those two things might save you a few hundred in the future.

[eejit101]

Driving on the phone to someone limits your concetration, a huge study in the UK found that people were 45% less committed to focusing on the road.

45% man.

Thats a LOT.

They might not have the right, but this just saves lives. Period.

If you dont agree with that, then WTF?

Get hands free if u wanna chat

[BnLM5]

What I find interesting about the whole thing is ...

It is illegal to drive and talk on the phone,

but it its not illegal to drive and dial the phone,

or to text someone while driving. How much sense does

that make?

[navuta]

What I find interesting about the whole thing is ...

It is illegal to drive and talk on the phone,

but it its not illegal to drive and dial the phone,

or to text someone while driving. How much sense does

that make?

No, dosent make sense.
What makes sense here is to know that when you distract yourself by any means, you are actualy harming the freedom of others, with the odds you creating to happen an accident.

[0maxpower0]

Cant argue nothing if the people of the state want the law in place, as long as thats true i have no problem with it. But if its something that is unwanted by the majority, and is only present to generate more income for the PD's, then im opposed. people have it rough as it is nowadays, i dont know why theyd vote for something that'll just take more money out of their pockets. honestly, i think I want it to just be as simple as; focus while you're driving, ya know. I think that a law shouldnt be needed and people should jsut realize that theyre traveling in a 1/2 ton plus vehicle that generates a lotta force, even at low mph's. People should just know its common sense, but there has to be a law and people have to be taxed??? I tihnk my frustrations just comes with the lack of common sense in people. Shouldnt even need a law like that because it should be common sense that a moving vehicle can hurt people. Am i being presumptious or should people just know that??

[taylovesthebeatles]

I don't really get the point of using your cell phone while driving anyway. It seems to me there's pretty much always a situation where doing that can be avoided. To me it boils down to this- people can be and often are morons who need laws to tell them not to do something that they should already know is a bad idea/illegal/harmful to oneself or others in the first place.

[navuta]

the government has no right to do this kind of thing. Whether you agree with it or not, the constitution doesnt grant the federal government the right to prohibit you from talking on your cell phone whlie driving. Its been proven that driving a car while sleep deprieved affects your driving and decision making abilities as bad as or worse than if you were intoxicated to a degree that you were over the legal limit, so with that logic, they should be able to give you a ticket for driving while sleepy... doesnt matter that the law will undoubtedly cut down on the auto accidents, by how much is debateable, the governent just doesnt have the right to do that, and thats all there is to it.

OH and to Bn.. if you just dont admit to doing the thing the officer is accusing you of, you save a lot of time. So when asked were you (over the speed limit, talking on a cell phone, shaving, etc.) all you have to do is say no. If you say that you di the illegal thing, you waive your fifth amendment right to self incrimination, and ur prty much screwed) Also if they ask to search just say that you dont consent. Even if they try to linguistically trick you by asking do you mind if i search you car (most poeple would say no, which is actuallyt an affirmation to search it), anyway yea those two things might save you a few hundred in the future.

They have the rights to do anything they whant..
There is no society without a state that create laws to proctet than.
Hegel, days:
"For Hegel, the State is the highest embodiment of the Divine Idea on earth and the chief means used by the Absolute in manifesting itself as it unfolds towards its perfect fulfillment."

I know its a little too much.. but it is somehow very true..

[GloBug]

the government has no right to do this kind of thing. Whether you agree with it or not, the constitution doesnt grant the federal government the right to prohibit you from talking on your cell phone whlie driving. Its been proven that driving a car while sleep deprieved affects your driving and decision making abilities as bad as or worse than if you were intoxicated to a degree that you were over the legal limit, so with that logic, they should be able to give you a ticket for driving while sleepy... doesnt matter that the law will undoubtedly cut down on the auto accidents, by how much is debateable, the governent just doesnt have the right to do that, and thats all there is to it.

OH and to Bn.. if you just dont admit to doing the thing the officer is accusing you of, you save a lot of time. So when asked were you (over the speed limit, talking on a cell phone, shaving, etc.) all you have to do is say no. If you say that you di the illegal thing, you waive your fifth amendment right to self incrimination, and ur prty much screwed) Also if they ask to search just say that you dont consent. Even if they try to linguistically trick you by asking do you mind if i search you car (most poeple would say no, which is actuallyt an affirmation to search it), anyway yea those two things might save you a few hundred in the future.

well the feds dont have anything to do with it. it is all state laws. just pay your fine and go on with your life.

[allinking17]

This is pretty crazy. They were actually trying to get it in florida a little while back, but it got shot down instantly. Im 50/50 on this, i mean i for one talk on my phone a lot when im in my car and i have no problem driving as well. Some people i know however are exactly the opposite. I have seen some of my friends transfer the phone from ear to ear and switch from hand to hand about 50 times during their phonecall as they have to make different turns etc. I can see how that could def cause an accident. This doesnt take into the count the fact that they are focusing on their phone conversation and sometimes driving is in their subconcious. If they had to make a quick decision while driving i believe most of my friends would be toast

[BnLM5]

the government has no right to do this kind of thing. Whether you agree with it or not, the constitution doesnt grant the federal government the right to prohibit you from talking on your cell phone whlie driving. Its been proven that driving a car while sleep deprieved affects your driving and decision making abilities as bad as or worse than if you were intoxicated to a degree that you were over the legal limit, so with that logic, they should be able to give you a ticket for driving while sleepy... doesnt matter that the law will undoubtedly cut down on the auto accidents, by how much is debateable, the governent just doesnt have the right to do that, and thats all there is to it.

OH and to Bn.. if you just dont admit to doing the thing the officer is accusing you of, you save a lot of time. So when asked were you (over the speed limit, talking on a cell phone, shaving, etc.) all you have to do is say no. If you say that you di the illegal thing, you waive your fifth amendment right to self incrimination, and ur prty much screwed) Also if they ask to search just say that you dont consent. Even if they try to linguistically trick you by asking do you mind if i search you car (most poeple would say no, which is actuallyt an affirmation to search it), anyway yea those two things might save you a few hundred in the future.

I did not say anything man I was telling Ringo that my daughter did. as she is 19 years old first ticket ever she was taught that honesty is the best policy. I realize you don't just rat your self out. But to be honest with you I have avoided more tickets than I have received by just saying Ya I was and that is a fact. Nonetheless I have no idea where you live but where I live if an officer of the law wants to do it he will! I think navuta said it perfect somewhere in this thread when he said they will do anything they want. They being cops.

Ringo did you find what you were looking for? I am curious though, whats up? Who got a ticket?

[Manhater]

The only law here that they are passing is texting while driving. Not talking while driving.

[freeringo]

I don't even own a cell phone anymore.
Good debate though.
I hven't even been pulled over by a cop in 20 years.
I like the idea if keeping an electic razor in the car.
Get pulled over for talking on phone and whip out the razor.
Watch out for being on candid camera though.

[BnLM5]

I don't even own a cell phone anymore.
Good debate though.
I hven't even been pulled over by a cop in 20 years.
I like the idea if keeping an electic razor in the car.
Get pulled over for talking on phone and whip out the razor.
Watch out for being on candid camera though.

Lol that was in fact a true story!

You brought up this thread just for the sake of a debate? While I searched and found you credible sites to reference, with genuine concern that you may actually need advice. Ringo one of these days you are gonna think woof after your cried out wolf one to many times.

I can still say thanks though as it is helping me refresh my research techniques, and I am sure going to need them this semester. Thank God for Google cheats and such!

But did you even look at that site?

[freeringo]

I did read it and it is a very vague discription of the law.
It doesn't address the rights of the citizen or the extent of the law.
I would tell you if I got a ticket silly.

[BnLM5]

Yes it was just a list of frequently asked questions.

Like the some of the questions addressed in your original post.


KNOCK on wood I haven't been pulled over in about nine years.

And the last time was a financial issue tags and insurance which

eventually led to my arrest. Gawd what a criminal I am! I would like

to have a copy of my mug shots. I was nothing near the better side of

nice. Know that!