Poker society had no respect to Stu Ungar.

[GloBug]

well u ask phil helmuth and doyle and johnie chan who was the best player when he was playing and they would say stu was. espn is just hating on him because of his drug problem. whatever if he was a live i think he would have like 15 bracelets.

[navuta]

YEs. nice that u all understood how bad ESPN could be for his image. They were not helping him at all at any time. I think the image they passed could not help him get better but only make him more and more into depression. Iven his daughter trying to "help" said she did not whant to talk with him unless he stoped snorting... That was very cruel form her part I think, and that all happend because of this ugly image that "society" that didnt kwew him well has created for him.
Off course he was surrounded since childhood with abusses and execces of all type, thats why his father was so worried.
Anyway.. I also thinks that all this pressure made him a better poker player. He had to prove to everybody he was good. Because by himself, he knew he was.

He was just a poker player.
Not bad, not good, just a lost soul searching for asnwers.
I think He had might have found a lot of then.

[allinking17]

I dont think that they are purposefully "making fun" at him. From what i saw on someo f the specials on him ( i thought they were epsn) it seemed that they were just explaining what he went through in his life. Instead of making fun of him i bet they were just trying to push hard on the fact that drugs are horrible in every way. They put someone in a black hole like stu fell into. So once again i dont think it was an attack, more of a warning to anyone watching that this was a lifestyle that you most likely do not want to be involved with, even if you think that his life (winning the WSOP) was a dream come true.

[navuta]

I dont think that they are purposefully "making fun" at him. From what i saw on someo f the specials on him ( i thought they were epsn) it seemed that they were just explaining what he went through in his life. Instead of making fun of him i bet they were just trying to push hard on the fact that drugs are horrible in every way. They put someone in a black hole like stu fell into. So once again i dont think it was an attack, more of a warning to anyone watching that this was a lifestyle that you most likely do not want to be involved with, even if you think that his life (winning the WSOP) was a dream come true.

Im talking specificaly about ESPN on the video link I seed to you.
The reposter iven says to him: "you dont know how to play poker".
The other says... Im poor... But Im aliveeeeee... Im poor but Im aliveeeee
And at another shot, the camera zoom in into nothing and someone says on the video.. Stue?.... stue?.... stue?..... like he could not see him, and him could not listem to him...
Anyway... TV = Fake reality

[allinking17]

I aplologize, it didnt even look like it was a link. You are right on your post.

[DINGO8MYBABY]

There were some people who tried to help Ungar, people like Billy Baxter and Mike Sexton, but there is only so much you can do for a person. Stuey was an addict, and most addicts don't want help/change, but as someone (I think it was TJ Cloutier) said if Ungar had known that there were going to be 10K buy-ins as frequently as there are today he would have cleaned up to play all that poker. As for ESPN, they're full of crap anyway.

[navuta]

I dont think he would stop for all those 10K buy -ins off today.
He needed more than money..
more than prestige.
He needed only be the best on something.
And he chossed poker.