cash table bluff

[thenutzaa1]

maybe i can try a attachmnet for you eejit

[eejit101]

CAnt you get a normal hand history?

[thenutzaa1]

here is the one i want feed back in

[eejit101]

I cant comment on that.

ITs 100% standard.

[thenutzaa1]

what you mean!!!

[eejit101]

That the play there is basic, 2bet, 4bet push.

How else do u play it?

Flat call and push the flop?

And why dont you rasie normally?

[thenutzaa1]

ok i see now.....

he had 14.50 left i knew it was going in so i just pushed instead of raising 14.50

[ffcowboy76]

Oh boy. This is gonna be fun. On the hand the single biggest mistake I see is the initial raise you made. You only went 2.5x the bb with KK in a heads up match. Let me guess, you wanted action. When will people understand that you really DON'T want action with KK, even heads up. The better raise would of been somewhere around 5 to 7x the BB. Make him think about how bad he wants to play this particular hand.

Now, with that said, I don't really like the over push after being reraised either. I'm a fan of seeing a flop and out playing my opponent on the flop. Chances are on that particular flop he's going to push his 14 and change into the pot with 16 sitting in the pot and you will still call. BUT, to learn from this, sometimes it's better to see the flop and make a move there, showing that the flop doesn't scare you and pick up the pot. If you push preflop you take all of the different things you can do away from yourself and leave it up to the computer to decide.

[eejit101]

Im not that bothered about the push preflop, theres enough in the pot for him to call, and you dont run the risk of a 456 flop to let him have fold chances against you.

I do dislike the bet sizing though

[ffcowboy76]

Im not that bothered about the push preflop, theres enough in the pot for him to call, and you dont run the risk of a 456 flop to let him have fold chances against you.

I was speaking more in terms of general hand play. More people on this site like to push preflop and take all the possibilities away from themselves. It's almost like most people here are scared to play post flop.

[eejit101]

I know that, and usually im right with you.

In general scenarios, with balanced chips, i can flat call this and go forward and outplay them post flop.

but in this specific hand, a push preflop is the simplest way to get it in, as its going in anyway.

[thenutzaa1]

ok i understand raising 5 to 7 times the BB.....if i did that he pushes i still lose!!! if i bet 7 he psuhes for his 22

and about the bet size i had 175 infornt of me and he had 22....i raised to 3 he reraised to 8.. instead of making it 14 more i just push for 155 or whatever i had left!!!


eejit how much of a favor am preflop

[thenutzaa1]

i am a post flop player!!!! thats how i make all of my money for example here is a nice read by me and a nice steal