cash table bluff

[thenutzaa1]

we played about 40 hands and he already sucked out on me once with me kK. but i stayed strong and this happen:

thenutz12234 jh9h
shanefalco9 Ad6h

flop: 9dks10h
turn: 8d
river qh

thenutz12234 Posts SB 0.50
ShaneFalco9 Posts BB 1.00
thenutz12234 Raised to 2.50
ShaneFalco9 Raised to 10.00
thenutz12234 Calls 8.00
ShaneFalco9 Checks
thenutz12234 Checks
ShaneFalco9 Bets 22.00
thenutz12234 Calls 22.00
ShaneFalco9 All In 18.46
thenutz12234 Calls 18.46
ShaneFalco9 Shows
thenutz12234 Shows
thenutz12234 Won 101.92 from pot 1 with King High Straight

what you guys think!!!

[eejit101]

Preflop - fold.
Flop - Bet.
Turn - Check.
River - Fine

[thenutzaa1]

been playing the same heads up game and was up 80 bucks from what i started with....

two hit and runs for 20 dollars each both donked out!!!!


thenutz12234 Kckh
aceydueceypo AhQh

flop: 9s10hjd
turn: 8c
river A c


thenutz12234 Posts SB 0.50
aceydeuceypo Posts BB 1.00
thenutz12234 Raised to 2.50
aceydeuceypo Raised to 8.00
thenutz12234 All In 175.06
aceydeuceypo All In 14.50
aceydeuceypo Shows
thenutz12234 Shows
154.56 returned to thenutz12234 from pot 2
aceydeuceypo Won 46.00 from pot 1 with Queen High Straight

[thenutzaa1]

here is the second one!!



thenutz12234 10d10h

flop: kd9d2h
turn 7d
river q h



thenutz12234 Posts SB 0.50
takeuondarvr Posts BB 1.00
thenutz12234 Raised to 4.50
takeuondarvr Calls 4.00
takeuondarvr Checks
thenutz12234 Bets 8.00
takeuondarvr Calls 8.00
takeuondarvr Bets 12.00
thenutz12234 Calls 12.00
takeuondarvr All In 53.90
thenutz12234 Folds
takeuondarvr Mucks
102.90 returned to takeuondarvr from pot 1

[freeringo]

This thread looks like a ticker tape

[thenutzaa1]

sorry i was furstated ringo!! i want some feed back though

[freeringo]

sorry i was furstated ringo!! i want some feed back though

OK I will give it my best feed back effort.

That was then, this is now.
You may never see that player again.

[eejit101]

I cant give feedback on those hands with no stack sizes, hands, actual pot info or anything.

What hand histories are they????

[thenutzaa1]

maybe i can try a attachmnet for you eejit

[eejit101]

CAnt you get a normal hand history?

[thenutzaa1]

here is the one i want feed back in

[eejit101]

I cant comment on that.

ITs 100% standard.

[thenutzaa1]

what you mean!!!

[eejit101]

That the play there is basic, 2bet, 4bet push.

How else do u play it?

Flat call and push the flop?

And why dont you rasie normally?

[thenutzaa1]

ok i see now.....

he had 14.50 left i knew it was going in so i just pushed instead of raising 14.50

[ffcowboy76]

Oh boy. This is gonna be fun. On the hand the single biggest mistake I see is the initial raise you made. You only went 2.5x the bb with KK in a heads up match. Let me guess, you wanted action. When will people understand that you really DON'T want action with KK, even heads up. The better raise would of been somewhere around 5 to 7x the BB. Make him think about how bad he wants to play this particular hand.

Now, with that said, I don't really like the over push after being reraised either. I'm a fan of seeing a flop and out playing my opponent on the flop. Chances are on that particular flop he's going to push his 14 and change into the pot with 16 sitting in the pot and you will still call. BUT, to learn from this, sometimes it's better to see the flop and make a move there, showing that the flop doesn't scare you and pick up the pot. If you push preflop you take all of the different things you can do away from yourself and leave it up to the computer to decide.

[eejit101]

Im not that bothered about the push preflop, theres enough in the pot for him to call, and you dont run the risk of a 456 flop to let him have fold chances against you.

I do dislike the bet sizing though

[ffcowboy76]

Im not that bothered about the push preflop, theres enough in the pot for him to call, and you dont run the risk of a 456 flop to let him have fold chances against you.

I was speaking more in terms of general hand play. More people on this site like to push preflop and take all the possibilities away from themselves. It's almost like most people here are scared to play post flop.

[eejit101]

I know that, and usually im right with you.

In general scenarios, with balanced chips, i can flat call this and go forward and outplay them post flop.

but in this specific hand, a push preflop is the simplest way to get it in, as its going in anyway.

[ffcowboy76]

Very true, but I'm on a quest to help people learn to play POST flop, rather than just pushing preflop all the time.

[eejit101]

And im right with ya, but surely we cant do it in a hand where pushing PRE flop is the correct move?

[thenutzaa1]

ok i understand raising 5 to 7 times the BB.....if i did that he pushes i still lose!!! if i bet 7 he psuhes for his 22

and about the bet size i had 175 infornt of me and he had 22....i raised to 3 he reraised to 8.. instead of making it 14 more i just push for 155 or whatever i had left!!!


eejit how much of a favor am preflop

[ffcowboy76]

This is true, guess I should pen something about how to play post flop and post it in the tips section, so no one can read it.

[ffcowboy76]

There is no guarantee that he will push if you raise to 7. It shows him that you have something very strong and can make him question how good his AQ is. I'm not saying it will work every time, but if you pick up a few extra blinds with it, then you are profitable.

[thenutzaa1]

i am a post flop player!!!! thats how i make all of my money for example here is a nice read by me and a nice steal