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    Default Finally Seeing A Profit

    It's taken me a while, but I've finally started to profit at No Limit Hold'Em. I'm definitely still pretty new and not playing high stakes poker by any means, but my sessions have finally started to see a profit. I just wanted to thank all of you for continuing to help me become better at this game- even the times I've been dealt a bad beat or played a hand terribly and lost. I've always learned something and I know I'll continue to do so. I love playing with you guys. Thanks NDN especially for allowing me to post and play here so I can earn the money to play on FullTilt! You rock.

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    Well good for you and gope that you will continue to do well. good luck in your future poker game!

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    What sessions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    What sessions?
    Playing SnG's on FullTilt. Maybe you wouldn't call that a session, but I meant I don't just play in the NDN games.

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    Cool.

    Good to hear.

    Just learn each time you play and ur golden!

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    O M G I tried to play a little poker tonight, I lost, but I think I am great at it.... A born natural.... NOT, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I don't know if I will be good enough to play with the anybody that knows what they are doing. (at this time) So if I can find a place to play with people, I mean slow people so that i will be the better one there, than, I can do that! That being said, I can tell you I will be good at it one day! Watch and see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylovesthebeatles View Post
    It's taken me a while, but I've finally started to profit at No Limit Hold'Em. I'm definitely still pretty new and not playing high stakes poker by any means, but my sessions have finally started to see a profit. I just wanted to thank all of you for continuing to help me become better at this game- even the times I've been dealt a bad beat or played a hand terribly and lost. I've always learned something and I know I'll continue to do so. I love playing with you guys. Thanks NDN especially for allowing me to post and play here so I can earn the money to play on FullTilt! You rock.
    Ditto everything tay said, except for the part about making money, lol. But seriously the site is great, every time i go on tilt or anything i come here and try to beat hte high scores at the arcade, and then get mad about a whole new thing . Thanks the NDN for makin it happen, im still waitin on my 5!!! :-p, its only been 3 days so im jsut being impatient. I guess ill have to try and beat the high scrabble score.... 27000 something like that...sigh. How in the world is that possible!!

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    It took 14 hours then I quit.
    I could have went forever.
    Good luck
    Don't forget to exchange tiles when a bomb get 1/2 way down and your stuck

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    Im glad to hear you are doing well. The most important thing to consider as you begin to play bigger games, to ensure a fluid profitability, is the estimated value of fold equity. Im sure you have taken note that running bluffs on inexperienced players at micro stakes yeilds a negative expectation, and have reacted accordingly by playing relatively snug. However, as your table stakes increase, be certain to respectively integrate an ascending value to fold equity, as unlike the peddlers in low limit ring games, advanced players are more willing to release marginal hands, but less willing to pay-off ultra-tight players, which mandates an increase in small-pot aggression and bluff frequency, and will, in turn, encourage opponents to pay off your strong holdings in larger pots. The key manipulation is to heavily extract from large pots to over-compensate for losses incurred while constructing an aggressive image through small-pot activity. Keep in mind this is a gradual shift in strategy, correlative to the increase in table stakes, so be sure to not 'over-adapt'. Feel free to ask if you have any questions concerning this methodology. Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrotrip View Post
    Im glad to hear you are doing well. The most important thing to consider as you begin to play bigger games, to ensure a fluid profitability, is the estimated value of fold equity. Im sure you have taken note that running bluffs on inexperienced players at micro stakes yeilds a negative expectation, and have reacted accordingly by playing relatively snug. However, as your table stakes increase, be certain to respectively integrate an ascending value to fold equity, as unlike the peddlers in low limit ring games, advanced players are more willing to release marginal hands, but less willing to pay-off ultra-tight players, which mandates an increase in small-pot aggression and bluff frequency, and will, in turn, encourage opponents to pay off your strong holdings in larger pots. The key manipulation is to heavily extract from large pots to over-compensate for losses incurred while constructing an aggressive image through small-pot activity. Keep in mind this is a gradual shift in strategy, correlative to the increase in table stakes, so be sure to not 'over-adapt'. Feel free to ask if you have any questions concerning this methodology. Good Luck!
    Wow.

    This is all fine, and mainly true, but the levels your talking about here are way more than a jump in 1 level of cash tables, or 1 buyin at SnGs.

    Your post is great, but surely a more basic approach in the early stages is warranted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    Wow.

    This is all fine, and mainly true, but the levels your talking about here are way more than a jump in 1 level of cash tables, or 1 buyin at SnGs.

    Your post is great, but surely a more basic approach in the early stages is warranted?
    Absolutely. A tight-aggressive style certainly is applicable through all low-limit levels. I would like to re-iterate the importance of a gradual shift in approach to any players reading this thread. An over-adaptation would undoubtedly catalyze any players debacle, not only due to an unbalanced application, but also his or her unfamiliarity with the style. Hopefully Tay will take this preliminary advice with a grain of salt, and maintain his winning strategy through these introductory levels. That being said, as table stakes begin to increase, without fluid adaptation, the profitability curve will inevitably begin to stabilize. Many players, after treading in the comfort of invariable stakes, neglect to alter their gameplay until this curve plateaus at the subsequent levels. The purpose of my former post was intended not to induce sweeping, and potentially regressive amendments, but to encourage an evolutionary perspective on strategy so that Tay will not need an emergency reformation to combat the tribulations of encumbered profitability.

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    Thats my main problem.

    I moved up to rather high SnG/tournaments.

    Now when dropping back down again im assuming the villains can pkay to a level that they clearly cant.

    Its also why its hard to ghost a player at low levels, as some plays and reads are so far off the mark because of a lack of general basic knowledge by some people.

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    thats great that your starting to win SNG's but remeber every cold streak turns hott and ever hott streak turns cold!!!!!

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