Belmont Analysis

[klinkman]

I look forward to reading your analysis of all the horses. I am still sad Rachel Alexandra isn't running again, but I applaud her trainers and owners for taking care of the horse's needs first. People really should look at that when they criticise the sport. I don't think anyone could care more about horses than these trainers and jockeys. What's the latest on Calvin Borel? Has he been asked to ride Mine That Bird again?

Calvin will be riding Mine That Bird on Saturday. He has already guaranteed victory. We all remember what happened the last time someone guarateed victory in the Belmont though right?

[taylovesthebeatles]

Calvin will be riding Mine That Bird on Saturday. He has already guaranteed victory. We all remember what happened the last time someone guarateed victory in the Belmont though right?

Yes, yes we do. Your desktop reminds me every day!

Failmont Stakes.

[Sassy12U]

Is it true that they give steroids to horses before the races?

If so, that is really sad. I would hate to be an animal forced to have steroids in my system and then race. It's just like that football player who made dogs fight. That is so wrong and hurtful to the animal.

[klinkman]

Is it true that they give steroids to horses before the races?

If so, that is really sad. I would hate to be an animal forced to have steroids in my system and then race. It's just like that football player who made dogs fight. That is so wrong and hurtful to the animal.

Steroids have been banned in all of the states that run triple crown races, as well as Califonia and I believe Florida, and most other states have either banned them or are in the process of passing the ban.

Lasix is still allowed. That is the issue that needs to be addressed now.

[eejit101]

Question - Whats the odds on this race for the contenders?


Also - when is it?

[taylovesthebeatles]

Question - Whats the odds on this race for the contenders?


Also - when is it?

The race is June 6th. I'm not sure of the odds at this moment, but I'm sure klinkman will post them. They tend to fluctuate as the race nears of course.

[taylovesthebeatles]

Is it true that they give steroids to horses before the races?

If so, that is really sad. I would hate to be an animal forced to have steroids in my system and then race. It's just like that football player who made dogs fight. That is so wrong and hurtful to the animal.

They still use some performance type drugs, but this years Kentucky Derby was the first Derby to be steroid-free. They're trying to crack down on this issue a lot, but the problem is different states and countries have different rules, and it's very difficult to get a sweeping change like this in the racehorsing industry.

[Pokerkitty6]

I love the fact that you love horses!!!! You seem to know what you're talking about. I like Minethat bird, but so does everyone else. Who would you put with him? What kind of bets would you make to get the best return of your money? What do you think about Chocolate Candy and Mr. Hotstuff? I love Mr. Hotstuff because he is a young horse who just seems to love the track. He runs out of gate and doesn't look back. I'm not sure if he has enough experience....Chocolate Candy has made some money...could there be more.? Lemon Drop's kid, Charitable man seems like a good bet too. As always for me, too many horses and too many ways to bet!!!! The Derby, Preakness, and the Belmont are like holidays for me, I love them!!!! These are days I set aside for myself. I make sure I am somewhere I can watch them and bet on them at the same time!!! I always pre-plan my party and take the next day off! I can't wait!!!!!! Looking forward to everyone's responses, even if you have never bet on a horse...maybe you just like the name. Let me know. Will we have the first triple crown jockey???????

[eejit101]

Personally straight up bets are better returns.

However weirdly ive made more money on tricasts, especially here as if you bet a tricast in WilliamHill, and you hit it in order than you have them to finish, you get double the win. If its the three u picked in any oder you get the standard win (which in a 12 horse race is normally pretty big)

[klinkman]

Personally straight up bets are better returns.

However weirdly ive made more money on tricasts, especially here as if you bet a tricast in WilliamHill, and you hit it in order than you have them to finish, you get double the win. If its the three u picked in any oder you get the standard win (which in a 12 horse race is normally pretty big)

1 Chocolate Candy (KY )
Garrett Gomez / Jerry Hollendorfer 10/1
2 Dunkirk (KY )
John Velazquez / Todd Pletcher 4/1
3 Mr. Hot Stuff (KY )
Edgar Prado / Eoin Harty 15/1
4 Summer Bird (KY )
Kent Desormeaux / Tim Ice 12/1
5 Luv Gov (KY )
Miguel Mena / D. Lukas 20/1
6 Charitable Man (VA )
Alan Garcia / Kiaran McLaughlin 3/1
7 Mine That Bird (KY )
Calvin Borel / Bennie Woolley, Jr. 2/1
8 Flying Private (KY )
Julien Leparoux / D. Lukas 12/1
9 Miner's Escape (KY )
Jose Lezcano / Nicholas Zito 15/1
10 Brave Victory (KY )
Rajiv Maragh / Nicholas Zito 15/1

These are the morning line odds at Belmont. I expect the longshots to end up between 20 and 30 to 1, and the rest to stay where they are, with Mine maybe going down to 3-2

Edit: I actually think straight up win bets are not the way to go this race, but I'll discuss what I think later.
Edit 2: The race is this Saturday. Coverage starts at 5 eastern, race is at 6:27 Local. You can find all this information, past performances and more here: http://www.ntra.com/races.aspx?id=37081&section=races

[eejit101]

7, 2, 1 trifecta sounds good to me.

[taylovesthebeatles]

7, 2, 1 trifecta sounds good to me.

I think Mr. Hot Stuff has the edge over Dunkirk in this one. Otherwise I like your trifecta I think.

[klinkman]

I am not at all a fan of this trifecta.

[PANAMHIEST]

Personally i am going for charitable man. This is a stronger, but smaller horse i believe will have the endurance to outlast some of the bigger horses. I am a bit concerned with miners escape and mine that bird, as they too are both good small endurance horses, but charitable man is my man, and i know charitable man will have the stregnth and endurance, plus the heart at the end to take home the triple crown.