Collusion, Stupidity or Something Else?

[kingsnthahole]

i dont neccesarily think they are cheating, but i have gotten wind before of people who use hacking programs, they have to disconnect from the poker site or something to see the hand in progress...which is why i never deposit money onto a poker site, i play freerolls or i use this site to build a roll, so i dont have to worry about using my money...

[KaciBlakely]

So basically if it ever did happen it wouldn't really be your money? But just like your bonus money you get to use?

I deposit so I really don't get to use that state of mind but at the poker sites I got to I feel pretty safe in playing at those so I don't usually worry about it.

I think I was just upset and mad and pissed that I wasn't catching very many cards when this thing happened.

It just added all up and I had an explosion if you will.

[happydel]

i dont neccesarily think they are cheating, but i have gotten wind before of people who use hacking programs, they have to disconnect from the poker site or something to see the hand in progress...which is why i never deposit money onto a poker site, i play freerolls or i use this site to build a roll, so i dont have to worry about using my money...

So you don't deposit onto sites because you think that some people have hacking software that allows them to see the cards of everyone else and I presume the cards which will hit the board before they are dealt.

Now while this is possible with obvious reference to the so called "super user" at AP I'm sorry buy I really have to question your logic on this. Lets put it into context here, I acquire this said program that will basically allow me to play every hand knowing the outcome, a perfect knowledge if you will. I now have to decide how best to use this knowledge. Taking into consideration that the penalty for being caught will be the same whatever level I play at and also that the backdoor entry that my program uses may be closed with the next update.

Do I

A. Spend 5/6 hours creaming the donks on the freerolls for $25 use this new found wealth to spend hours on the small buy in games for again a very small reward..

B. Milk the site and the other players at the maximum guarantee games and high level ring games.


I think the answer is obvious and it is only due to some of the negative media coverage that was put out that makes players dubious.

Yes there are many dodgy sites out there and some that genuinely go bust and take players money, but by being sensible. playing the mainstream sites and keeping a minimum amount of money on there you are at very little risk of losing more than a few $$, to be honest your biggest risk is getting donked by the miracle two outer on the river than being done by some scam artists on the sites. And look at it this way, if they are sad and pathetic enough to have multiple accounts that they have to use to chip dump in order to have any chance of winning in a freeroll, then they are very bad players and can be taken out by the solid players consistently.

[KaciBlakely]

So you don't deposit onto sites because you think that some people have hacking software that allows them to see the cards of everyone else and I presume the cards which will hit the board before they are dealt.

Now while this is possible with obvious reference to the so called "super user" at AP I'm sorry buy I really have to question your logic on this. Lets put it into context here, I acquire this said program that will basically allow me to play every hand knowing the outcome, a perfect knowledge if you will. I now have to decide how best to use this knowledge. Taking into consideration that the penalty for being caught will be the same whatever level I play at and also that the backdoor entry that my program uses may be closed with the next update.

Do I

A. Spend 5/6 hours creaming the donks on the freerolls for $25 use this new found wealth to spend hours on the small buy in games for again a very small reward..

B. Milk the site and the other players at the maximum guarantee games and high level ring games.


I think the answer is obvious and it is only due to some of the negative media coverage that was put out that makes players dubious.

Yes there are many dodgy sites out there and some that genuinely go bust and take players money, but by being sensible. playing the mainstream sites and keeping a minimum amount of money on there you are at very little risk of losing more than a few $$, to be honest your biggest risk is getting donked by the miracle two outer on the river than being done by some scam artists on the sites. And look at it this way, if they are sad and pathetic enough to have multiple accounts that they have to use to chip dump in order to have any chance of winning in a freeroll, then they are very bad players and can be taken out by the solid players consistently.

I agree completely. with some of it at least. There are dodgy sites yes. AP/UB being two of the sites that the public knows about for sure.

Pokerstars, Fulltilt, and the rooms The Nodepositneeeded forum plays at our pokersites I will deposit at.

There are so many bad players in freerolls. It's free so they must think they'll play ATC (Any Two Cards) and see the luck they get thrown.