The current rules are as follows,,,,,

NDN is going to put up a set pool (undetermined as of yet) to be used each week by a set 10 players (the current top 10). Each week, these players will all get into a mid-to-large buyin game of NDN's choice. Any winnings will be split 50/50, half going to the winning player, half going to the pool! As the pool grows, there will be many more bonuses handed out, possibly more players given access to this pool, and more!

Ok, some random musings.....

1. a set pool works, or itll be never ending and could bankrupt everything.

2. The set players thing i dont agree with. Yes, i agree to putting 10 players into a set event, and being staked. While the top 10 are playing well in the NDNPT, this is a different kettle of fish. Your playing anything from $10-$30 buyins so far, and the game is significantly different to the freerolls and buyins we have. My suggestion is putting forward to top 5 players, inclube NDN, and pick 4 players from the forum who have proven results in higher limit buyins. None of this is trying to include myself, this is aimed more at getting the best possible chance we have at making money, so using the best bigger money players as assets would work. So please dont take offence anyone who isnt in the top 5, as hell, im not!

3. The rules for repaying money wont work. Say we play a $20 buyin, with 1000 players. Thats 10 buyins at $20 = $200. Now with 10 people, one of us should cash, as with 10% of the field paid, thats simple odds. Now, an average cash will not be sufficient to return the money won to the pool and more. This is where the rules need changing. FOr example, any player who cashes must pay back the money sent to them to play in the tourney. Then from there you send back 50% of winnings OVER the origional staking. This will get more money bacnk into the pool.

4. The games we are playing have been on paradise, this is a decent choice for a site. We cant play at AP, as to transfer you need to have over $35 in your account, so if you win and dont have that, transferring is impossible, and chip dumping cant be risked. So obviously we now go to other sites with P2P transfers. Jetset comes to mind, and they pay out more generourly with their placings. In the $22 daily, 90 entrys, 18 people are paid. Thats 20% of the field. So there were looking at 2 or 3 NDNers in the money. Thats 3 buyins back, and 50% of money won over. Thats a good tourney choice.

5. Sattelites - Jetset low sattelites are out, 3 seats paid on average, with 20 entrys. 10 NDNers will get that to 30 entrys, and probably 4 or 5 seats. With a $5 rebuy, wed all need $25. Obviously we all rebuy immediate and addon, thats $15, so weve spent $150. Now say half of us have to rebuy twice once more, thats another $50. So weve paid $200 to play. $300 paid to win a max of 5 x $55 seats. Wed need 4 NDNers to win to break even for buyins, then they have to cash in the main event, the expected return on this is only 15% of the money staked.

Now say we do a bigger satty. a $21 freezeout to the Stars $1million. 1 in 10 win seats. We again have a probability of hitting at least 1 seat. Thats even money return on the buyins. But we have a chance at a guaranteed 10 seats. Id say in the stars sattys, they have ALOT of weak players, so we all have a 30% shot of making it. So say we get 2 in, weve doubled our buyins, with 2 people in a tourney that pays 200k minimum for the win. Placing in this is $500 win, so $215 to pool, and half of $285 is $142.50. Theres a better profit.

So if were satteliting, i suggest gambling the one buyin to a huge event, at the probability of getting 1 person in this event, and a likelyhood of getting 2-4 in, thats $800 in buyins for a $200 stake. We can also unregister and donate T$860 to the pool. Thats alot of stakes in rebuys. If we do that 3 times, we can get up to T$2150, which is 10 entrys into the Big $1Million.



I like this idea, but the rules need tweaking for the pool to grow, and this to continue. While some people may lose out, and the money youd get for winning is slightly less, the onyl way for this to continue and giving yourselves all free chances at some nice payouts, is to maximize the pool we have, before giving away more generous proportions of it to the players.




Feel free to discuss below.....