Reagarding the NDNPT!!!!

[eejit101]

I have a question.

Ive counted the amount of times ive been knocked out, not including the sitouts or the wins.

This is now 8 times.

All 8 i was ahead preflop, 6 times when i got it all in.


Question - Do you guys ever think "eejit is raising, i believe my AT, QJs, 55 is ahead of his hand"

Or

Do you not think about it, and figure you have a semi decent hand and try and hit a flop.

E.G yesterday, i raise with AhTs i believe, and get called by QhJh. The flop is all hearts. Obviously i have the nut draw and push for 2x the pot, standard. I get insta called obviously. My point is (im not moaning here, this is serious!) aside from that ONE flop that hit... nothing else that comes down is going to bust me, unless its JQK, we go all in and they spike a full house.

Im just wondeirng if you justify your plays, or you just play.


Feel free to discuss/hate e.t.c

[BirdShow]

With a big raise and no callers my medium hand is a fold.

With a big raise and a couple callers my medium hand hopes to hit the flop.

Small raise and I got the chips, hell I'll play just about anything if the price is right.

Eejit in the hand = guaranteed bad beat = reraise/check raise

[eejit101]

Oh yeah, for sure if its not even 5% of your stack.


My raise was 3.5x BB. The villain had me covered, and about 12x my raise amount. Just wondered if people ever put me on hands... as in QJ... is ahead never. I dont raise JT r QT, and any pair or Ace i have is ahead.

[GloBug]

well with the way u play at times i wanna say its hard to read u. i know i have done bad calls like our q10 vs a8 hand. remeber u pushed with a8.but i dont regret calling. it was heads up. ive seen u do the same (ask lilred) and i find it funny u post this. it happens i know i have taken beats on the ndnpt but it comes with the territory.

[eejit101]

Im not posting cos im angry, i want you to call with it!!!

Im just curious as to the thoughts in your heads

[bkniefel]

I think that I can speak on behalf of most of the players on the forum... I think. But it would be irrational to not think about where you stand in whatever hand that you are in. I think about this regardless of who they are or which type of game I'm playing. The read on the player and their current play are only factors that are never concrete.

With you, I would say that I give more though into these methods. When you're getting your money in, I don't assume that you are stacking off or that you are necessarily behind, but like you said, it is all circumstancial ( the reasoning behind your knockouts )

Maybe you should evaluate these hands and see if they are similar according to your action, position, and betting patterns.

[BirdShow]

Or maybe just cut out the middle man and hand me the cash.

Problem solved.

[GloBug]

ok well the way u played this tourney u cant post no more of these cry me a river threads. lol

[eejit101]

You mean i played it well i hope?

[GloBug]

You mean i played it well i hope?

lol ill let u think u played well. u did make some good calls but i would say there more luck involved than skill. all coin flips that went ur way. no skill involved there. only making the call had skill. im just sayinh that i thought u played in a way that u complained about.

[eejit101]

I got it all in behind 0 times.

Lets count!!!

AKh vs Lilreds TT. Firstly he should folded, im not pushing with anything TT beats.

Then AJ vs AT (i was ahead)

A8 vs 88 (i was ahead and that took me ages to call)

A9 vs 44 (i had lots of chips and PJ is good, i took a chance to get him out)

AK vs AT (this one i lost!)

KK vs 66 (boom)

And A3 vs QT (twice this happened, QT sucks)

[ffcowboy76]

eejit, if I remember my odds correctly, you got all in from behind in a few spots. Everytime you have overs to a pocket pair you are behind, but not by much. If you are the player with the A's, then you are behind in all 3 of those hands.

Time for me to be mean:

AK vs 10 10 = 45 / 53

A8 vs 88 = 28 / 68

A9 vs 44 = 45 / 55

Not trying to spite you, just didn't want to give players the wrong idea.

[eejit101]

First hand - I had AhKh (and i pushed, i didnt call, with a 5x BB raise fromt he button and me in the SB i figured him to be on 0 hands that had me dominated. Plus i figued id wint he pot preflop, didnt expect a call from TT)

2nd hand - I had 88

3rd hand - I had 44 (and him covered 6 to 1)

[ffcowboy76]

Ok. Didn't know how you wrote the hand matchups. You vs them or them vs you. Then yes, you are correct, with the exception of Lilred's TT, you were all in when ahead.

[knowledge]

Cowboy you forget that Lilred is brain damaged.......too much golf in the fla sun!