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  1. #1
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    Default Another hand for review

    Another hand to look at. This hand shows a great example of what happens when you don't trust what you believe the player has. I'm not exactly proud or happy with how I played this hand, but I will show it to the world for a learning experience. Try, try, try, try to avoid doing this, especially if you keep telling yourself you are most likely behind.

    FullTiltPoker Game: Table Santa Monica - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold’em
    Seat 1: 1 1 8 1 1 ($24)
    Seat 2: boomhower72 ($25.90)
    Seat 3: Mohomafama ($59.70)
    Seat 4: jkf79 ($70.55)
    Seat 5: bienAK47man ($9.75)
    Seat 6: ffcowboy76 ($52)
    Seat 7: Hamish6 ($50.45)
    Seat 8: vlfflqqkr ($50)
    Seat 9: GOPFishy ($49.25)
    jkf79 posts the small blind of $0.25
    bienAK47man posts the big blind of $0.50
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ffcowboy76 [Ad Qc]
    ffcowboy76 raises to $1.50 - I think I made the correct raise here. I wanted to eliminate players.
    Hamish6 folds
    vlfflqqkr folds
    GOPFishy folds
    1 1 8 1 1 folds
    boomhower72 folds
    Mohomafama calls $1.50 - I can put him on a range of hands here. Using my rules he could have any pocket pair or AK.
    jkf79 folds
    bienAK47man folds
    *** FLOP *** [2d 4d Qd]
    ffcowboy76 bets $3.75 - I bet pot here to end the hand right now and take my profit. If I was playing against a loose player I don’t want A3 or A5 to fit their hand.
    Mohomafama has 15 seconds left to act
    Mohomafama raises to $10 - This should of been a clue to me. I should of considered a small pocket pair, which in the end I didn’t.
    ffcowboy76 calls $6.25 - At this point I’ve screwed up the hand and I’m gonna commit more money than I should.
    *** TURN *** [2d 4d Qd] [6h]
    ffcowboy76 checks - Check for information, which I don’t allow to sink in.
    Mohomafama bets $16
    ffcowboy76 calls $16 - Horrible call by me, considering what I should of known.
    *** RIVER *** [2d 4d Qd 6h] [3c]
    ffcowboy76 checks - Another passive play.
    Mohomafama bets $32.20, and is all in - Tells me that either they have a set or a straight, either way my Q’s are crushed. Fold and go home.
    ffcowboy76 calls $24.50, and is all in - This is an example of Tilt. By not letting go of the hand on the flop, I allowed myself to tilt and make a bad call.

    Please learn from this example of a horrible play made by me. I should of know on the flop I was WAY BEHIND.

  2. #2
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    Ok, wow! Your logic is all over the place, but i like most of it!

    PF - Raising - maybe. 8 to act behind you... id also raise, but alot fo people limp this in EP. His call can be basically anything. I mean, ive seen (and done myself) 78suited call, 22, A9os e.t.c

    FLop - I prefer a check raise here... Only a K really screws you up depending on his hand, as u have Top pair top kicker if he checks behind. But going with a bet, his raise can also be AQ, or KQ/QJ/QT is possible but unlikely.

    From here its hard to critique, as i check raise the flop and more often than not fold to a push if i can get away from the pot odds. As played, the turn you can fold... or push after he bets. His bet is HUGE for a set... unless he has read you for your exact hand or near it. If i play the flop like you i get it all in on the nonscary turn.

    River - meh, commmited. Go for it and hope he has KQ


    Reads imo - I can put him on AQ/KQ. Also a busted flush draw. Set = possible. For some reason Q4 is shouting at me.

    If i had to pick ( i know youve said you made a "bad" call, but ill ignore that)....

    Im reading him for Q4

  3. #3
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    that quote from ndn on the bottom of eejits sig could help alot in this hand

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    So what did he have?

    If you want the correct answer to this then you played the hand spot on up until you just called his re-raise on the flop. After he re-raises on the flop you have to move in, it is the most +EV play.

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    Wow, I didn't realize it didn't copy the entire hand. The other guy had a small set, if I remember correctly it was a set of 2's. I overplayed top pair top kicker, which for me is not a normal thing. If anything I generally play very tight, usually less than 19% flops seen.

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    Even so, in a cash game i think the push on the flop is the correct play. In a tourney its completely different but in cash def a push there.

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