it seems EVERY year PSU is forgotten and its weird maybe if joe pa would learn to run up the score on teams but he wont do that he takes out starters 1st as he should to prevent injuries to his starters and i am proud to alumni of PSU which has had the last 12 years a grad rate of 96% or higher for its football players but joe is old school you know but he did build the program i remember when PSU was and independent lol