couple of hands....

[diablodawg]

PokerStars Game #72385088314: Tournament #481280056, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2000/4000) - 2011/12/18 15:48:14 AT [2011/12/18 14:48:14 ET]
Table '481280056 315' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: rpena1976 (3750 in chips)
Seat 2: Recsegö (40957 in chips)
Seat 3: RCAMDESSUS (33112 in chips)
Seat 4: tzg132 (3853 in chips)
Seat 5: feliyo (25588 in chips)
Seat 6: FominArt (20880 in chips)
Seat 7: sanello23 (25646 in chips)
Seat 8: mario_101989 (64239 in chips)
Seat 9: timberdogs (115950 in chips)
rpena1976: posts the ante 400
Recsegö: posts the ante 400
RCAMDESSUS: posts the ante 400
tzg132: posts the ante 400
feliyo: posts the ante 400
FominArt: posts the ante 400
sanello23: posts the ante 400
mario_101989: posts the ante 400
timberdogs: posts the ante 400
feliyo: posts small blind 2000
FominArt: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to timberdogs [Qd Ks]
sanello23: folds
mario_101989: folds
timberdogs: calls 4000
rpena1976: folds
Recsegö: raises 36557 to 40557 and is all-in
RCAMDESSUS: folds
tzg132: folds
feliyo: folds
FominArt: calls 16480 and is all-in
timberdogs: folds
Uncalled bet (20077) returned to Recsegö
*** FLOP *** [Kd Kh 9s]
*** TURN *** [Kd Kh 9s] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [Kd Kh 9s Td] [4h]
FominArt said, "lol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FominArt: shows [4s 4d] (a full house, Fours full of Kings)
Recsegö: shows [Kc Ac] (three of a kind, Kings)
FominArt collected 50560 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 50560 | Rake 0
Board [Kd Kh 9s Td 4h]
Seat 1: rpena1976 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Recsegö showed [Kc Ac] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: RCAMDESSUS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: tzg132 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: feliyo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: FominArt (big blind) showed [4s 4d] and won (50560) with a full house, Fours full of Kings
Seat 7: sanello23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mario_101989 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: timberdogs folded before Flop


easy fold ...then i do this





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PokerStars Game #72392263593: Tournament #481280056, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXVI (90000/180000) - 2011/12/18 17:29:46 AT [2011/12/18 16:29:46 ET]
Table '481280056 110' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: timberdogs (1457656 in chips)
Seat 4: SSV25 (3724896 in chips)
Seat 5: mark0x0 (2224936 in chips)
Seat 6: Nerses905 (2660596 in chips)
Seat 7: kromoel (1905103 in chips)
Seat 8: vovanrus62 (1379464 in chips)
Seat 9: boksör (2097766 in chips)
timberdogs: posts the ante 18000
SSV25: posts the ante 18000
mark0x0: posts the ante 18000
Nerses905: posts the ante 18000
kromoel: posts the ante 18000
vovanrus62: posts the ante 18000
boksör: posts the ante 18000
mark0x0: posts small blind 90000
Nerses905: posts big blind 180000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to timberdogs [Ts 7s]
kromoel: folds
vovanrus62: folds
boksör: folds
timberdogs: raises 1259656 to 1439656 and is all-in
SSV25: folds
mark0x0: raises 767280 to 2206936 and is all-in
Nerses905: calls 2026936
*** FLOP *** [6c Tc Qd]
*** TURN *** [6c Tc Qd] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [6c Tc Qd 5s] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mark0x0: shows [Kc Ah] (high card Ace)
Nerses905: shows [Jh Js] (a pair of Jacks)
Nerses905 collected 1534560 from side pot
timberdogs: shows [Ts 7s] (a pair of Tens)
Nerses905 collected 4444968 from main pot
Nerses905 wins the $0.25 bounty for eliminating timberdogs
Nerses905 wins the $0.25 bounty for eliminating mark0x0
mark0x0 finished the tournament in 14th place and received $36.10.
timberdogs finished the tournament in 15th place and received $36.10.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5979528 Main pot 4444968. Side pot 1534560. | Rake 0
Board [6c Tc Qd 5s 4d]
Seat 3: timberdogs showed [Ts 7s] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: SSV25 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mark0x0 (small blind) showed [Kc Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: Nerses905 (big blind) showed [Jh Js] and won (597952 with a pair of Jacks
Seat 7: kromoel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: vovanrus62 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: boksör folded before Flop (didn't bet

[diablodawg]

PokerStars Tournament #481280056, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $1.00/$0.25/$0.10 USD
9025 players
Total Prize Pool: $9025.00 USD
Tournament started 2011/12/18 14:15:00 AT [2011/12/18 13:15:00 ET]


Dear timberdogs,

You finished the tournament in 15th place. A USD 36.10 award has been credited to your Real Money account.

You earned 288.48 tournament leader points in this tournament. For information about our tournament leader board


like my life, in poker i do such stupid things...

[ScareCrowAKA]

... Online poker is a scam ... so wasnt stupid, just irrelavent

[eejit101]

Hand one....

Working it out mathwise, vs shoving ranges assigned to each player, thats a bad fold. But I would probably have raised preflop then had to call. If your limping there your obviously folding to a raise, so not a big difference.

Hand 2 - WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[ScareCrowAKA]

if u would have bet diff. or made diff moves, the computer wuld have dealt out diff, flop turn river anyways

[klinkman]

Hand 2 is super standard ship IMO.

[eejit101]

Standard ship? as in you shove?

[ScareCrowAKA]

OK I actually read that thing... Im reading that right... all in shove preflop w 10 7 suited, UTG, w 1.5 million left... to win 400K?

considering if u are called u are getting 1:1, and the absolute best u can hope for is a coin flip... Which isnt likely and I would guess 95% of the time if called u are a 4:1 dog...

ya, that was pretty stupid, lol

[ScareCrowAKA]

U can justify it if u shove knowing 5 people will call, and if they do, then noone can say u didnt know that, lol

[klinkman]

Standard ship? as in you shove?

Yes, as in I shove. I guess somone would have to run it through Wiz to be sure, but people tend to call way to tight in this kind of situation, so tight that it's usually profitable to shove 72 offsuit in that situation, let alone something like 107 suited where you gain a little bit of equity from straights and flushes.

[ScareCrowAKA]

i get where he is coming from w this... he assuming noone is gonna call with a pair less than Qs Js... and the chances of any pair being dealt to any player in a round is like 45%, and half of those u have atleast a coin flip odds against...

400K is 25% his stack

So hes saying it worth it to invest the 1.5 mil to chase the 400k

I cant figure the odds to find out actually how many times u are gonna win in that situation, but u would have to win 4 out of 5 times for the risk v rewards to be in ur favor

but I dont get how people apply this to tournaments, this is more applicable to cash games

tournaments u have to weight in buy-in cost, the jump of prize money to the next spot out... how much u have in relation to the rest of the table...

to me risking 1.5 mil there when ur only a double up from the big stack... is way to much to risk, unless the next 10 spots in the tournament all get paid the same amount... then I can kind of see risking it, but I still dont think I would

holdem is a flop game, If Im gonna make a move there, I would do it after the flop

if u are right and only get called w a big pair, then they more likely to fold after the flop... that would furthur add to the overall odds of winning in that situation

[ScareCrowAKA]

... but no way i do it UTG

[eejit101]

Ive just played live, and raised to £12 UTG with £0.50/£1 + straddle of £2.

UTG+1 shoves for £99, MP all in for £80,LP all in for £79, SB all in for £54.

Im sat there with KT suited. At this point i am up £400.

So im thinking surely i have outs. And im getting about a million to one!

I call (after thinking about maths).

Flop 9 8 J. turn 8. River Q.

Me = Nut straight.

SB mucks.
UTG+1 mucks (said he had aces, like hell he did).
MP mucks.
LP shows 99. (BAHHHHHHHHH)


Anyone disagree with call?

[ScareCrowAKA]

ur basically risking 80 to win to win 350... plus u break about even finishing 2nd to the short stack...

w a suited 2 gap connector... I would have called... even if u are only like 22% to win, ur getting even odds

[ScareCrowAKA]

... i did the holdem calculator ... w u up against AA, 99, AQ, 67s ... it puts u 15% to win vs the aces, but square vs everyone else... but if u were up 400 already, y not?

[eejit101]

exactly! i did think that. and figured 17%, so close!