and ya, the odds are never to horrible preflop w any hand, your gonna have atleast 3 outs and 5 draws at it... in most situations, if all the money goes in preflop and the hand carried out til after the river, your still gonna around lose around 20% of time time unless one player is completely dominated... So, it could be bad luck, could be a rigged system, noway to prove it, cuz even I could easily design a system to where the odds work out mathematically to where they should be... but influence the outcomes with situational rigging