I spent 30 minutes researching this riddle then I decided to re=read the question for a 4th time and I finally realized how simple it was and the fact that their wasn't anything similar on google to find.
Funny how our/my brain most times considers the most difficult solutions first when the simple answer is right under our nose.
It's like when I misplace my keys and I search the house for an hour in every concievable place and finally after giving up I find them left in the front door. DOH