Ive never posted a Hand for example b4, so....

[ScareCrowAKA]

this one here pretty just completely pissed me off

Hand#2574011506000??? - Pebble Beach (6-Max) 11506 -- $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em -- 2011/04/23 - 14:48:12

Seat 1: MyBl***1 ($50 in chips) DEALER
Seat 2: --ME-- ($84.80 in chips)
Seat 3: Jotu***3 ($96.17 in chips)
Seat 8: ffan***8 ($22.78 in chips)
Seat 9: dega***9 ($50 in chips)
Seat 10: ohco***10 ($36.67 in chips)

---ME---: posts small blind $0.25
Jotu***3: posts big blind $0.50

Dealt to --ME-- [9d,7d]
ffan***8: folds
dega***9: raises to $1.50
ohco***10: folds
MyBl***1: folds
---ME---: calls $1.25
Jotu***3: raises to $6
dega***9: folds
---ME---: calls $4.50

*** FLOP *** [8h,5d,Th]
---ME---: checks
Jotu***3: bets $13.50
---ME---: calls $13.50

*** TURN *** [Ad]
---ME---: bets $20.25
Jotu***3: calls $20.25

*** RIVER *** [Kc]
---ME---: bets $40.50
Jotu***3: is all in 56.4200
---ME---: is all in 4.5500
Jotu***3: returns uncalled bet $11.37
---ME---: shows [9d 7d]
Jotu***3: shows [Kh Ts]

***SHOW DOWN***
Jotu***3: wins $168.10 with Two Pairs, Kings and Tens


I knew he raised cuz me and the original raiser make a lot of tight folds... when the original raiser folded, I figured I had the best hand, and if I would have re-raised, he would have called me anyways and at best I figure im 60-40, so I just called to keep the pot small and see what I could flop... When I flopped the back door flush and striaght draws, I chkd, again to keep the pot small, if he would have made a huge over bet I would have let it go... I was up 35$ b4 the hand started... when the Ace and the flush draw hit the turn, I was going all the way no matter what happened, cuz I figured he hit top or second pair on the flop, or some kind of inferior draw to mine and he had me on 2 big cards... the king came out and I figured k 10 was well within his range, and if he hit the 7 outter I lost... and I did... cuz online poker is fake, lol

I guess I should have shoved after the turn?

[ffcowboy76]

I think you best play is to fold preflop. No need to called 3x, let alone the 3bet with 9/7s. The flop hits you decent, but you make a passive move and check call with the draw. You called with 2 to 1 odds on an EIGHT out draw at this point. You are at best 32% to hit. Once the turn hits, you pick up 7 more outs. This gives you 15 outs to hit either one of your draws, which is 30%ish to hit. If you feel he is weak and a bet can take it, then bet the pot, not 1/2 pot like you did. You turn bet screams I'm on a flush draw, not the A gave me a better pair than you.

Just my thoughts.

[ScareCrowAKA]

Ya, I know the preflop call was a stretch, the only reason I called is cuz I was up some $ and had it to play w... when he bet I figured he hit a pair & I guess I should have shoved it there, but I figured he would call me anyways, so whats the point... So I called to see if I could hit the open ender, Ace, or diamond... which if the straight or ace hit, I knew I was good, with the opportunity to improve even more w the nut flush... and when the diamond hits the turn, I figure I am more than priced in to carry it out to the end... when the ace hit I knew he was at 4 outs, so I give him good odds to call w the 20$ bet... just didnt work cuz the odds are skewed online, because this play will work 9 out of 10 times live... and has... but online if feels more like 6 0ut of 10

... but ya, I agree the best play in hindsight would be to not even call preflop in the first place

[klinkman]

Ya, I know the preflop call was a stretch, the only reason I called is cuz I was up some $ and had it to play w... when he bet I figured he hit a pair & I guess I should have shoved it there, but I figured he would call me anyways, so whats the point... So I called to see if I could hit the open ender, Ace, or diamond... which if the straight or ace hit, I knew I was good, with the opportunity to improve even more w the nut flush... and when the diamond hits the turn, I figure I am more than priced in to carry it out to the end... when the ace hit I knew he was at 4 outs, so I give him good odds to call w the 20$ bet... just didnt work cuz the odds are skewed online, because this play will work 9 out of 10 times live... and has... but online if feels more like 6 0ut of 10

... but ya, I agree the best play in hindsight would be to not even call preflop in the first place

Wait...what?

You had nothing but a draw on the turn! He didn't have 4 outs, he had THE BEST HAND! You weren't good, you had a draw! You didn't have the nut flush draw, you had a 9 high flush draw!

I mean, you're quite live but you are never ahead with 97 there!

[ScareCrowAKA]

lol im sorry... I was thinking I had a ACE... this same kind of thing happend to me 3 different times that day... I had it confused w another hand where I hit the ace with a flush draw... sorry

my over all impression of internet poker over the last 4 months... is you cant slow play... if you do, the site punishes u for it... which makes sense I guess... hard betting on every street by multiple players = more rake

[ScareCrowAKA]

hahaha... Im just pissed, due to getting called for 15$ w 6,10 preflop, when there is 6$ in the pot... then shoving on the flop w A Q and getting snapped called on a 2,6,7 board... fake *** BS, lol... but as long as I keep pretty much breaking even... I will keep playing, even though I dont trust it