On the surface this seems pretty bogus to me. And since I know the both of you, I doubt it goes any deeper than the surface.
I've played games with just about every poker playing member on here (many of which I play with regularly) and I won't stop doing so EVER.
Hell, the only reason I play online poker these days is to play games with my old pals on here. You won't catch me in many games without a friend who's playing the same one. So poker rooms can allow that and benefit from my continued play, or they can ban people for no reason and lose a lot of business, while tarnishing their reputation in the process.
Playing with friends online is no different than playing with friends offline. Offline, you learn to respect players and stay out of their way, and the same goes for online. This isn't cheating, it's just smart poker.
When you walk into a local poker room, you see the same faces over and over again, people become familiar with other players, and they adjust their game accordingly.
Poker is an extremely social game that is far more enjoyable with a familiar face or two at the tables!
online poker=you giving your money to a site to hold for you, while you slowly lose it all...and if you dont, this type of thing happens. Which is why i cant say this enough-Don't trust ANY poker sites....ANY! Once they have your money, they can do whatever they want with it.
I would also ask them for the hand history in which they have proof of you colluding...if the hands look shady, then you're probably screwed, but if you have a viable explanation for these hands, then tell them what you were thinking while making the play. If they give you the BS response they gave you the second time with no out, ask to speak personally with a manager, eg phone or live chat. Everyone gets scared when you ask for a manager.
ya i agree with kings on that if you want your account back or at least your money, then get ahold of some higher authority, preferably by phone, and if they even hint at giving ya crap, unleash the fury.
Aunt Judy sent this link to John who sets up all our tournaments , all we can ask is a fresh set of eyes from Full Tilt look at it.Hopefully they will see the players have been members of this forum for years and may explain away some issues.John has been good to us so regardless of this outcome we will still be hosting Full Tilt Tournaments starting next week
Tracy
i finally got a couple hands from FTP and i must admit they do look shady but they can be explained very easy. one hand i timed out when i flop 2 pair, but if u look at any of my poker account i have timed out many times with good hand due to the fact i have 2 kids and **** happen i leave the computer. i can many time i folded AA preflop due to a time out. one hand i folded ak preflop 3 handed when terp shoved from the BB. it was a matrix game and i am almost certain i folded because i was not willin to risk my slim chip lead on a coinflip and finish 3rd and lose out on the matrix prize pool on a race as i put him on a PP. last time i checked a 3rd in a match and 3rd overall in the matrix doesnt pay as much as a 1st in a match and 1 or 2nd overall. i remember in a private game here when NDN 1 was the owner and i timed out heads up a few hands due to kids. if u look at the overall hand history u would see we were both are not shy to take each other out even if it was the bubble or first hand of the game.
overall most games we played together we lost money and didnt make make any money. we played games like this for months until i left for vegas and quit playing poker for the time being. if we were trying to cheat dont u think after the first week or even month of losing money we would stop. like NDN 1 said poker is a social game played with friends. its more comfortable playing with people u know and know that are real players. with so many different things out there and seeing some of the sick beats online it gives confront to know ur play with a real person.
i could honestly care less if full tilt gives us are accounts back as i am done with them. they have double standards there. if i recall last year one of the red pro's got his red pro status taken away for a few months for violation of T&C. If this is some normal joe that is a nobody and doesnt creates that much rake u just get ****ted on by them. all i would like to see is rich get him money back from them as it was his money and that money didnt come from these games as i said before we lost way more money then we have when we played in the same games.
I am bumping the poker threads to get the attention of our old poker league ,if you guys are still around and want to play homegames , please come back and make your presence known
NDN
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