Do you make this call preflop?

I didn't have much on this player, but this was the start of many issues. He ended up being one of the loosest winning players I've ever seen. He didn't fear any raise and called with pretty much any two cards. Here is the hand. Do you make the call he made either preflop or on the flop?

Full Tilt Poker Game #16968100130: Table Goldyke - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:59:34 ET - 2009/12/20
Seat 1: zegalgongmyung ($31.03)
Seat 2: Scorpio_V_H ($5.35)
Seat 3: ARIRANG-K-R ($36.24)
Seat 4: Gingernutz75 ($8.90)
Seat 5: archer1488 ($25)
Seat 6: rodog408 ($10.74)
Seat 7: hooksvsbird ($25.92)
Seat 8: ffcowboy76 ($36.19)
Seat 9: KAMENSK1977 ($10)
hooksvsbird posts the small blind of $0.10
ffcowboy76 posts the big blind of $0.25
archer1488 posts $0.25
5 seconds left to act
Scorpio_V_H posts $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ffcowboy76 [Qs Qh]
KAMENSK1977 folds
zegalgongmyung folds
Scorpio_V_H checks
ARIRANG-K-R calls $0.25
Gingernutz75 calls $0.25
archer1488 checks
rodog408 calls $0.25
hooksvsbird folds
ffcowboy76 raises to $1.50
Scorpio_V_H has 15 seconds left to act
Scorpio_V_H folds
ARIRANG-K-R has 15 seconds left to act
ARIRANG-K-R folds
Gingernutz75 folds
archer1488 folds
rodog408 calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [3h 8h Td]
ffcowboy76 bets $4.10
rodog408 raises to $8.20
ffcowboy76 raises to $12.30
rodog408 calls $1.04, and is all in
ffcowboy76 shows [Qs Qh]
rodog408 shows [Th 4h]
Uncalled bet of $3.06 returned to ffcowboy76
*** TURN *** [3h 8h Td] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [3h 8h Td Ts] [9d]
ffcowboy76 shows two pair, Queens and Tens
rodog408 shows three of a kind, Tens
rodog408 wins the pot ($21.46) with three of a kind, Tens

cant help the turn screwed you. you got what you wanted. he had top pair but you had overs. i make that play 10 out of 10 times.

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Originally Posted by targetguy1

cant help the turn screwed you. you got what you wanted. he had top pair but you had overs. i make that play 10 out of 10 times.

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Is that the play I made or the one he did? I'm curious if you would call an additional 5x pre with T/4 suited?

i think he was trying to put u off the hand pre, and realized he had put in too big of a bet too late, so had to call it off just to try and get lucky which he did. I would of reraise 104suited to begin with, so no i wouldnt of made that play. My poker is a bit tighter than that, but then again i never play cash.

no u dont make that call but like u said those are the calls u want.

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Originally Posted by ffcowboy76

Is that the play I made or the one he did? I'm curious if you would call an additional 5x pre with T/4 suited?

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the way he played seem typical of the way you said he would played. witht hat being said i would of played this hand the same way you did. if sucks you get unlucky on the turn.

with his hand i dont call preflop but on the flop i might be calling if i put you on ak or aq

preflop, muck
postflop....JACKPOT!!!
its a coinflip on the flop, and how does he know you have QQ, you could have missed with AK with such a big bet preflop...

The only way you play that is if its you BB and its a check for you.Now then again early in a rebuy if your feeling it maybe,a cash game?Should be instafold.

The bet sizing on the flop was made that big on purpose. The board was flush draw heavy and I didn't want to give the draws the odds to hit. My goal was to make him fold what I thought he might have (AT and above or a strong flush draw) due to lack of odds. It was a "textbook" play to eliminate a draw in a cash game, but I got what I wanted to a certain extent. I got all of his chips in with the best hand at that moment.

I was refering to him there cowboy!The 10 4 was an instafold after you raised,IMO.

Pre flop I wouldnt have made the call , but post flop.....I would probably be tempted to make the call , thinking you had missed the flop. It's just one of those times where the poker gods are taking the piss :(