What to say to a drug addict???

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09-22-2009, 01:25 PM
area206

What to say to a drug addict???

My neighbor is a big oxycontin head... His wife and kids left him and he is about to get evicted. I have tried to converse and get him out of his habits of smoking OC's and taking percocits but it just will not work. Its just a big cycle. He says he will quit but once he has money he just goes and buys more pills or goes to the casino to win money and buy more pills. I pretty much tried to say everything I can without upsetting him or get into his personal life too much, but he brought it on himself. I have tried to help but I feel there is nothing left for me to say.

What else can I do???
09-22-2009, 01:29 PM
kingsnthahole

here's a tip...stay away from him because when he runs low on money he will switch to heroine...its about 1/5 the price and the same high...people that do drugs THAT hard can only stop themselves...
09-22-2009, 01:35 PM
area206

Its funny because he brought up the whole heroin too one night that we were talking. I just didn't say anything. He made it seem like it was a joke but not. He wouldn't even know where to get that anyway.
09-22-2009, 01:36 PM
TerpZone

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Originally Posted by kingsnthahole

here's a tip...stay away from him because when he runs low on money he will switch to heroine...its about 1/5 the price and the same high...people that do drugs THAT hard can only stop themselves...

I've known a bunch of pill heads in my day, none have ever searched out heroine because pills are a much more... sophisticated drug and much more easily accessibly by less shady means. Although I suppose if he's already ruined his life, nothing will stop him from taking the plunge to walking around the shady part of town searching out a dealer.

Heroin, crack and meth are the 3 big no-nos in the drug world. They're all considered dirty drugs (heroin in powder form excluded for the sake of speedballs)
09-22-2009, 01:37 PM
markjfixit

I think if he wants it bad enough he can find it!! I think you did all you could,, sounds like that ship sailed along time ago.
09-22-2009, 01:40 PM
GloBug

well i dont think you can say anything if his wife and kids left. you wouldnt be doing anything but either making him upset or just going in one ear and coming out the other.

herion is the choice for people that cant afford the pill habit. well at least in cali it is. but they are all readily available so i dont know. i would say to let him get evicted and then wash your hands with it because you never know what he will do when he is hard up for a fix. maybe hurt a u or your family. stay away from him he is a product of his own demise.
09-22-2009, 01:50 PM
area206

Kinda hard to stay away when he is next door. My fiancee does get upset when he knocks at my door or calls me late at night all high. When I do talk to him he brings up the conversation, it always starts out as pills are a waste of money I am quitting today and never doing it. I say okay, " are you sure," He says, "Yes, I need my family back." He makes $33 an hour and he cant afford cable, electricity, clothes for his kids, food, bills, its just very upsetting. If I was making that much my family would be in a house with all our bills paid. He has stacks of pawn shop papers that he probably will not get out.

Did i mention that his baby momma is an addict on OC's too. She contradicts him saying that he needs to change his life but she does it too. All there money goes to pills. I have been trying to talk to him for almost three months now and its the same thing. I believe I am done and said what I have to say. I was just getting other opinions to see if there is anything else I can do to save him.
09-22-2009, 01:52 PM
sweetpea

You can't talk someone out of a serious addiction unless they are willing and able to help themselves. There is nothing more you can do. And be careful if you are allowing him in your house and near your family... desperate people do desperate things.
09-22-2009, 02:00 PM
area206

That is true, he does knock on my door but I will not let him in. I have told him that too. My girl just does not like him. He has mentioned going to a clinic but I guess the pills that he needs to stop him from withdrawals are like $160. The first thing he said to me was I can get at least three OC's for that....
09-22-2009, 02:03 PM
GloBug

well maybe you need to call the cops if you feel he wont get the idea. i think that might help him. a few days or months in jail.
09-22-2009, 02:06 PM
area206

I have thought about that and even thought about calling CPS on him and his girl but decided not too. His girl already left him and he cant see his kids as is. I never want to take someone from seeing their children.
09-22-2009, 02:08 PM
GloBug

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Originally Posted by area206

I have thought about that and even thought about calling CPS on him and his girl but decided not too. His girl already left him and he cant see his kids as is. I never want to take someone from seeing their children.

well he isnt making a effort and would you really want a pill addict to see his kids. i wouldnt. not a good idea. no cps as the mom has them but i think the police is a good idea. that guy is gonna end up doing something he wont like and maybe eiter get alot of jail time or get himself killed over a drug deal gone bad. it happens all the time. something to ponder for you.

or you can just say i will be there for him and try to get him off o it yourself.. u got 2 decisions.
09-22-2009, 03:27 PM
Lilred36

Yeah sweetpea is right he's made up his mind.We had a doctor here several years back that was handing them out like asprin, finally someone died he got life.Terp also is right if he can get OC, thats what he knows, before long he will find other means.I ain't calling the kettle black,as I am a natural herb lover myself.I would advice staying close with this guy as his money runs out he will find other ways,OC is some bad chiit.
09-22-2009, 03:28 PM
thejuanupsman

I've lost a few friends to drug use, mostly heroine, and the sad truth is there is not much you can do for them if they don't want to help themselves. I honestly advise not getting too involved. Sooner or later it just leads to heartache.
09-22-2009, 05:36 PM
targetguy1

well back in high school and a year after i was hooked on oc's. i got them free from my friends dad and so therefore made the habit more easier to afford. we would go on 2 week highs until his dad ran out and we would go back to pot. we did this every month as he got his new pills the first of the month. finally i hit rock bottom and was just ashamed of what i became and decided it was time to kick the habit and join the navy. was one of the best things i every did.

i feel like i am a different person and dont have anything else to be ashamed about it. as for my friend he couldnt kicked the habit and is currently unemployed 26 years old living off his dad's social security and pills. what a life i tell. also we had another friend who was in to oc's also and my dad called me a couple years ago to tell me he od'ed in the jack in the box parking lot and died. he was only 23 at the time and had a whole life ahead of him but all got wiped out because of this pill.

my advice to you is to stay away from at all cost. he will only bring you down.... my mom used to tell me if you run with dogs you'll catch flea's. i feel if you continue to talk to him and will try to bring you down to his level and you dont need to go down that road. there is no hope for him unless he is ready to change and he isnt. so quit wasting your time on this guy.
09-23-2009, 06:07 AM
eejit101

To answer the thread question...

"F*** off and die"
09-23-2009, 06:50 AM
BnLM5

Obviously Eejj you have never had a drug problem or know anyone that has. God forbid that either ever happen. You should have a heart and think before you spout off like that. :drool5:

Firstly Area206 there is really nothing more that you can do . It sounds like you have done more than you share. Secondly he will probably hit bottom and perhaps go to jail before he quits, if he quits. But he has to want to quit before he can. And usually (not always), but usually it takes something drastic to make a person realize that they have a problem. Once reality hits them in the face there are different steps that they will take or be forced to take from there.

Addiction is a very sad thing and many people are addicted to something or another. Nonetheless people start using for one reason or another. Who are we to judge anyone not knowing any of the circumstances or even if we did.
09-23-2009, 07:33 AM
woohoosue

yeah the only guy that can help him is himself..the drug is over powering him to think clearly about anything. he will steal and hurt his own grandmother to get his drugs. be afraid of him till he recognizes he needs to be strapped down to abed to detox out and then he shouldn't be trusted becuz the brain always remembers the feeling and keeps urging him to "do it again" this is a lost soul. his only savior is himself.you can do nothing but offer him food when hes spent all his money on drugs and is starving. sorry i had a cousin on drugs most of his life...worthless
09-23-2009, 07:59 AM
woohoosue

and then there is my favorite responce to a drug addict "Put that down, EEjit!"
09-23-2009, 01:43 PM
eejit101

I just cant understand why people cant say no.

Dont take it, and then you wont die/get addicted/become dependant/steal/kill etc.
09-23-2009, 02:42 PM
targetguy1

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Originally Posted by eejit101

I just cant understand why people cant say no.

Dont take it, and then you wont die/get addicted/become dependant/steal/kill etc.

for some people it a way for them to get accepted by a certain group or to get friends. not everyone is as gifted as you and can make the best out of nothing.
09-23-2009, 08:42 PM
BnLM5

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Originally Posted by targetguy1

for some people it a way for them to get accepted by a certain group or to get friends. not everyone is as gifted as you and can make the best out of nothing.

That is right, as I agree with you Target. People turn to drugs for different reasons. That does not make it ok, or condoned. However it does help with the understanding of why??? Drugs has been used as a supplement for such things as mood, or inner strength, to fill voids, to cover shame or guilt. To become numb or hide from life with as well as the being accepted that Target mentioned.

Although it is true that drugs are an altered stated of mind and is not actually helping for what it is being said. Every drug addict still has a "reason." Whatever it may be. Some people start doing drugs because they like the euphoria. Such as that of a pain pill.

Drugs waste and ruins lives and destroys familys. And it is extremely sad to see someone that did not intend to become an addict, as that is never the intention, but nonetheless has become one.

Addiction is a condition that can either or both become a psychological and or physical dependency. Can also be very hard to fix. As the addict has to realize that they are addicted first. That is the toughest part.
09-23-2009, 09:56 PM
navuta

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Originally Posted by eejit101

To answer the thread question...

"F*** off and die"

lol...
I was trying to figure out an answer also.. And could only think about being a little pissed and telling him to stop or just do it until u die..lol.. Not funny.. but addicted people dont deserve much attention.
I think everybody is free to do what they want to..
Ciggaretes is one of the worst addiction for sure.. and lots of people do it without problems... so why not do other things without a problem..?