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Well. I think that before any discussion on this subject that we all know very little of the reality.
I think USA has lots of control all over the world and iven in Iran.
They can make political imposition by peace acts if they whant, just make a pressure on the international consil.
Anyway... This looks like a new page of the enternal hystory of capitalism against terror..
Any kind of terror or communism needs capital support, so they are on the capitalism side anyway..
nah they wont evade iran. we have enough problems. iran will crumble over what is going on there right now. well ajmenijiad has arrested the brother of the ayatollah and that doesnt stand well with alot of the clerics. u gotta think that almenijiad is a out powered wehn it comes to religion over his hard line approach. i think he will be ousted in due time due to what he is doing in that country. thats election was fixed. how do they count 4 million votes in a few hours. they have to count by hand because there is no electronic voting there. US will stay out and let them deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by navuta
We're in the middle of a revolution, that's for sure. I'm not entirely sure how to feel about the whole situation. The loss of life certainly is tragic, and I can say that no matter what the mainstream media tries to do to silence everyone, word will get out and this will continue.
"You say you want a revolution, well you know/ We all wanna change the world..."
-John Lennon
well to us we look at life with the utmost respect but they dont revere it as much as we do. i mean people die there all the time. we just donr hear about it. i can tell u this u add up all our murders here per year and it doesnt compare to those countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by taylovesthebeatles
I saw on television the blogs of some Iranians protesting about what is going on..Quote:
Originally Posted by taylovesthebeatles
And also saw this movie about dictartorship Implemted by USA on brasil in 64.
So, is better sometimes just not to listen to televison..
Internet is much better I think.. more democratic
It is all about the people of Iran this time.
Russia and China have nothing to gain by influencing Iran.
Iran is on it's own and the people have got a fight on their hands.
A free Iran with no US military intervention would be a miracle.
Let's hope and pray for a miracle.
I also hope Iran can cope with it alone..Quote:
Originally Posted by freeringo
But USA is everywere.. They will do some things about it..
I think is, that US uses othes problems to creat it own problems.
Peace is the answer
Wont Invade Iran. We only invade countries that have something we want, and that wont put up much of a fight...
Were still in Iraq and Afgan, yes. But come on they had no chance and really we are not paying that much of a price for being there.
Iran on the other hand is a different story. A lot longer commitment and many more casualties. Greatest sponser of terror in the last 20 years with alot of "evil" allies.
Why do you think we went in to Afgan and Iraq instead of Iran and N. Korea in the first place?
answer= what we gain in influence over the oil industry greatly outweights the cost we pay militarily
There is no way we will go into iran, i mean we technically still arent done in afghanistan and obviously not completely done in iraq. Obama too wouldnt maek that push in the first year of his first term anyways. Not even close to being considered i believe, i mean he just responded to the subject a few days ago for the first time
well all i got to say is there is no bush in office and all his chronies are not in office either. so i think obama will let iran play out on itself. we dont need to worry.
You as if you were part of the army..Quote:
Originally Posted by allinking17
Patriotism is dead..
We live at a global organized world.
Freedom to come and go should be real.
Thats might be the plans of the:
NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
The whole world is going to hell. So who cares what is going on in Iran.. They can all kill themself for all that I care. Their are more important things going on right here in the U.S.A. I worry more about my country then any other country. We have to fix them problem here and not worry about who got elected in some foreign country. Let them work it out and we should just stay the hell out of it.
Yes, good point. Bu the thing is that USA has always being close related to all other countrys, so USA could have lots of political power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas12
HAve you played Civilization?]
Where U have to be friend first just to kill everybody toguether later?
The strogest one dosent need friends..
all i can say is if our officials actually want to start ANOTHER WAR...im in favor of anarchy!
of course the strongest does need friends
It does need, but abuses of its power sometimes..
Usa have always being on war since the 2 world war..
I think they will not stop it now.
Need to sell machine guns.
I have seeing it.
For me Bush and Obama is the same thing.
Is only that before they whanted to show more off the "evil" things usa likes to do. Now they put a nice smile pop-star president.. Just to show more of the other side of political coin. But the truly interessts are the same.
Even in rounders radio i Was listenning , and that guys said that the society lives 40 years behind the actual politics views. So we canot know what are theirs plans for the future, otherwise if we know, their plan will not work.
Welcome.
To the:
NEW WORLD ORDER.
Settle down my passionate friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by navuta
If you can't laugh about it, what can you do?
Jeez I hate talking politics on this forum. More power to the rest of you but I'm not so sure that this is the place to disguss such matter but you guys can go along and party on with your war talk.
I have many family in the military and are ranks of Majors so I'm not disrespectful.
Just wanted to make that one clear.
War is Hell
send them all home
Im pretty sure that the United States has army bases in over 170 countires around the world, so yea we're definately there, we're definately everywhere. I hope that the US doesnt interfere with this civil war in another country. Too often we play global police, but i think this time, were going to let them destroy themselves. Not to sound like a pessimist, but it seems like theres a lot of turmoil in this area of the world, we learned our lesson from Iraq, and were just keeping out of it. I think that the american authorities are taking a hands off approach. Not only is it not any of our business to be over there, but man that would only open up a new box of terrorism directed at america.
lol NAVUTA NWO THATS RIGHT. But seriously, if you think that the the United States doesnt want rogue states like Iran Iraw and NK, then youre wrong. If theyll kill themselves fine, if they kill each other, fine. We just want to be there when reconstruction begins.. the US is oh so good at reconstructing a country and implanting a friendly president or shah, i suppose. Its tough though; do you interfere an dbring trouble onto yourself, or do you sit by and allow its course to run, even though ethically and morally you knwo things are going on that are wrong. It really is a tough question, and for someone whos as militant as me and feels the gov's shjould just back off, im really in a conundrum :-(
I think that is the biggest thing.
To me.
It is not the responsibility of the USA to police the world!
That's the other thing I wanted to point out.
Anyone agree?
I totally agree!!!
But USA whants to police the world.
Is their aim to influence as much as possible.
And if all those things are happening it is because USA whants that to happen.
If politician are somehow worried ( at least what we can see on TV)
It is because they have lots of power in IRAN>