Interesting Tourney Spot

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06-09-2009, 02:15 AM
eejit101

Interesting Tourney Spot

So, whats your thoughts on how it was played.

Image wise the villain here has limed the last 2 hands and folded to raises.

Do me a favour and comment before you click the spoiler to see what happened.

Hand#189152F3C7003318 - Tournament Table 34 T5436359 -- Table 19 -- $400/$2,000/$4,000 NL Hold'em -- 2009/06/09 - 07:48:41
Seat 1: kena*** ($64,655 in chips)
Seat 2: jfun*** ($179,557 in chips)
Seat 3: four*** ($153,815 in chips)
Seat 5: FERN*** ($103,270 in chips)
Seat 6: GoTe*** ($94,475 in chips)
Seat 7: Omeg*** ($84,587 in chips)
Seat 8: KickItAmish ($110,757 in chips) DEALER
Seat 9: okls*** ($129,616 in chips)
Seat 10: djel*** ($264,268 in chips)
kenag posts ante of 400
jfunkymj posts ante of 400
fourstar200 posts ante of 400
FERNMIAMI posts ante of 400
GoTerps82 posts ante of 400
OmegaSupreme posts ante of 400
KickItAmish posts ante of 400
oklstud posts ante of 400
djella1224 posts ante of 400
djel***: posts small blind 2,000
kena***: posts big blind 4,000
Dealt to KickItAmish [As,Qd]
jfun***: calls 4,000
four***: folds
FERN***: folds
GoTe***: folds
Omeg***: folds
KickItAmish: raises to 21,600
okls***: folds
djel***: folds
kena***: folds
jfun***: calls 17,600
*** FLOP *** [4c,8h,3c]
jfun***: checks
KickItAmish: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah]
jfun***: checks
KickItAmish: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks]
jfun***: bets 52,800

Spoiler

KickItAmish: calls 52,800
***SHOW DOWN***
jfun***: shows [8c Ac] (Two Pairs, Aces and Eights )
KickItAmish: mucks
jfun***: wins 158,400 with Two Pairs, Aces and Eights
KickItAmish: mucks [ As, Qd ] (Pair)
06-09-2009, 02:24 AM
GloBug

well i think kick it amish should have never check the turn. i think he got caught with his pants down. i would have pushed. but hard to tell what he is holding. ah i dont know im tired and its late. im gonna click on the button now.
06-09-2009, 02:26 AM
GloBug

Quote:

Originally Posted by eejit101

So, whats your thoughts on how it was played.

Image wise the villain here has limed the last 2 hands and folded to raises.

Do me a favour and comment before you click the spoiler to see what happened.

Hand#189152F3C7003318 - Tournament Table 34 T5436359 -- Table 19 -- $400/$2,000/$4,000 NL Hold'em -- 2009/06/09 - 07:48:41
Seat 1: kena*** ($64,655 in chips)
Seat 2: jfun*** ($179,557 in chips)
Seat 3: four*** ($153,815 in chips)
Seat 5: FERN*** ($103,270 in chips)
Seat 6: GoTe*** ($94,475 in chips)
Seat 7: Omeg*** ($84,587 in chips)
Seat 8: KickItAmish ($110,757 in chips) DEALER
Seat 9: okls*** ($129,616 in chips)
Seat 10: djel*** ($264,268 in chips)
kenag posts ante of 400
jfunkymj posts ante of 400
fourstar200 posts ante of 400
FERNMIAMI posts ante of 400
GoTerps82 posts ante of 400
OmegaSupreme posts ante of 400
KickItAmish posts ante of 400
oklstud posts ante of 400
djella1224 posts ante of 400
djel***: posts small blind 2,000
kena***: posts big blind 4,000
Dealt to KickItAmish [As,Qd]
jfun***: calls 4,000
four***: folds
FERN***: folds
GoTe***: folds
Omeg***: folds
KickItAmish: raises to 21,600
okls***: folds
djel***: folds
kena***: folds
jfun***: calls 17,600
*** FLOP *** [4c,8h,3c]
jfun***: checks
KickItAmish: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah]
jfun***: checks
KickItAmish: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks]
jfun***: bets 52,800

Spoiler

KickItAmish: calls 52,800
***SHOW DOWN***
jfun***: shows [8c Ac] (Two Pairs, Aces and Eights )
KickItAmish: mucks
jfun***: wins 158,400 with Two Pairs, Aces and Eights
KickItAmish: mucks [ As, Qd ] (Pair)

oh man that sucks he should have folded. lol
06-09-2009, 03:24 AM
eejit101

But your assuming without the ending i should fold the river??

Im not bothered about the end of the hand, but about the river decision.

I honetly thought he was betting JJ or something.

FYI - i am KickItAmish
06-09-2009, 06:17 AM
thenutzaa1

ok I min raise with aq suited here only becuase he has chips to work with. You got no info preflop b/c you 4.5 bet and that's enough for the person to smooth call with AA. So if he has AA to a min raise, he reraises and then you get your info... let me check and see
06-09-2009, 06:22 AM
thenutzaa1

Bad hand with A8..... LOL I don't know donkeys make it that far..... He was going anywhere preflop, flop folding was your only option
06-09-2009, 06:28 AM
freeringo

Go to next Tournament and play it the same way.
Quit over analyzing.
Go with your gut and you will do better.

After playing that same hand a 1000 times you win more than 60%.
What more can you ask for.
06-09-2009, 09:35 AM
navuta

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeringo

Go to next Tournament and play it the same way.
Quit over analyzing.
Go with your gut and you will do better.

After playing that same hand a 1000 times you win more than 60%.
What more can you ask for.

wow
I hope one I play 1000 times each hand possible.:D
So guys, whoa are up for the game today?
Just woke up...
Im computer wacht was wrong 2 yours yestarday.
Hey, how should i invest (spend) my 5 bucks I got at carbon?
:roll:
06-09-2009, 01:54 PM
klinkman

I'm tempted to c-bet the flop, but checking through is ok too. I'd bet the turn though for sure. On his river bet, the way you played it, I'm not sure you have any other move other than call. That river improves so few hands, unless you had some sick read that your hand was no good on the turn you have to think it's good here. But betting the turn gives you so much information. I think that's key here.
06-09-2009, 02:09 PM
eejit101

I disagree, checking the turn induces river bluffs from him on most cards, which this could have been. If i bet the turn and he raises. Am i folding AQ? if he calls am i check callin the river?
06-09-2009, 02:10 PM
eejit101

What happens if the river is a 7 or less card and he bets the same
06-09-2009, 06:24 PM
klinkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by eejit101

I disagree, checking the turn induces river bluffs from him on most cards, which this could have been. If i bet the turn and he raises. Am i folding AQ? if he calls am i check callin the river?

What hands do you beat if he check-raises the turn? Any check-raise there seems likely to be a set. If you think checking the turn induces a river bluff, then you call, muck quietly, and this isn't an interesting hand then is it? You and I both know that there is exactly 1 hand that you had beat on the turn that now beats you on that river- KK. And him having that would require him limp-calling with it, which I suppose he could do but thats pretty fishy to me. As far as I'm concerned that river is a blank. A river below a 7 would be more scary to me, as if he had some low suited jank he might have made 2 pair or a straight.
06-09-2009, 06:25 PM
klinkman

As far as the river if he calls, you are in position are you not? I'd check through if he calls then checks, if he calls then bets out I think he's on a draw, so I'd call on that river and think about one that completes a straight or flush.
06-09-2009, 06:51 PM
eejit101

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinkman

What hands do you beat if he check-raises the turn? Any check-raise there seems likely to be a set. If you think checking the turn induces a river bluff, then you call, muck quietly, and this isn't an interesting hand then is it? You and I both know that there is exactly 1 hand that you had beat on the turn that now beats you on that river- KK. And him having that would require him limp-calling with it, which I suppose he could do but thats pretty fishy to me. As far as I'm concerned that river is a blank. A river below a 7 would be more scary to me, as if he had some low suited jank he might have made 2 pair or a straight.

Good thoughts.

I felt a missed draw or some kind of JJ hand to be honest.
06-09-2009, 07:53 PM
GloBug

welloking at it now he wasnt gonna fold no matter what. he probably put u on AQ or AK and he hit 8 then got the A on turn so no matter what he wasnt leaving. it was just a bad play by him to call but maybe u should have raised a bit more preflop to get him off that hand. well lesson learned. i know its happened to me. lol
06-09-2009, 08:38 PM
eejit101

5x is enough there, i wanted him in the hand if he had A8.

Plus if i bet differently there preflop, too low and he is calling with anything. Too high and he folds or pushes and im commited if he does. That range i raised was right IMO for the hand.

I jut got outplayed ont he river.
06-10-2009, 03:28 AM
GloBug

Quote:

Originally Posted by eejit101

5x is enough there, i wanted him in the hand if he had A8.

Plus if i bet differently there preflop, too low and he is calling with anything. Too high and he folds or pushes and im commited if he does. That range i raised was right IMO for the hand.

I jut got outplayed ont he river.

dont think u got outplayed. if u did u got outplayed by the cards. u r right good amount. all i can say is dont feed the donks.