One of the best hands to analyze yet.

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03-23-2009, 06:44 PM
$o$o$ucce$$ful

One of the best hands to analyze yet.

This is the 1st hand of the 20k gtd! are you kidding me? what a hand. alright everyone lets try to dissect this.
PokerStars Game #26274614153: Tournament #149949686, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/03/23 12:00:01 CT [2009/03/23 13:00:01 ET]
Table '149949686 212' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: asafderg (3000 in chips)
Seat 3: xxPOGOxx (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: Wishaw (3000 in chips)
Seat 6: bisgaard555 (3000 in chips)
Seat 7: GeriZs (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: Bjorner83 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: pifpaf39 (3000 in chips)
xxPOGOxx: posts small blind 10
Wishaw: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxPOGOxx [Kh Ah]
bisgaard555 has timed out
bisgaard555: folds
bisgaard555 is sitting out
GeriZs: folds
Bjorner83: folds
pifpaf39: calls 20
asafderg: folds
xxPOGOxx: raises 60 to 80
Wishaw: folds
Lappie18 is connected
pifpaf39: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Qd Kd As]
Lappie18 is sitting out
xxPOGOxx: bets 100
pifpaf39: raises 100 to 200
xxPOGOxx: calls 100
*** TURN *** [Qd Kd As] [2h]
xxPOGOxx: checks
pifpaf39: bets 200
xxPOGOxx: raises 500 to 700
bisgaard555 has returned
pifpaf39: raises 2020 to 2720 and is all-in
xxPOGOxx: calls 2020 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Qd Kd As 2h] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xxPOGOxx: shows [Kh Ah] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
pifpaf39: shows [Jc Tc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
pifpaf39 collected 6020 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6020 | Rake 0
Board [Qd Kd As 2h 7d]
Seat 2: asafderg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: xxPOGOxx (small blind) showed [Kh Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: Wishaw (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: bisgaard555 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: GeriZs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Bjorner83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pifpaf39 showed [Jc Tc] and won (6020) with a straight, Ten to Ace
03-23-2009, 06:59 PM
eejit101

Hmm, preflop is standard.

The flop play sucks, min raising on the drawyest board ever? If you gonna lose, lose properly.

Raise the flop to 400, and if they push either call and hope for AQ/AJ/JT, or do ewhat i do, fold and think JT/QQ/KK/AA.

As played, checking the turn is suicide. Bet the turn if you think your ahead after the flop, dont let them draw for free, and then when they raise again evaluate if your ahead. If we are check/raising, and then they push, by now yu must know your beat.
03-23-2009, 07:05 PM
klinkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by eejit101

Hmm, preflop is standard.

The flop play sucks, min raising on the drawyest board ever? If you gonna lose, lose properly.

Raise the flop to 400, and if they push either call and hope for AQ/AJ/JT, or do ewhat i do, fold and think JT/QQ/KK/AA.

As played, checking the turn is suicide. Bet the turn if you think your ahead after the flop, dont let them draw for free, and then when they raise again evaluate if your ahead. If we are check/raising, and then they push, by now yu must know your beat.

He lead out 100, the villian mini-raised. I agree checking the turn is suicide, however I might have 3-bet the mini-raise, if villian 4 bets you know you're toast and need to fold.
03-23-2009, 07:17 PM
eejit101

ahh my bad, then wtf, your beat!
03-23-2009, 08:31 PM
esmordan

idk i think AK gets overplayed sometimes????? maybe this is just anotehr case of this scenerio???
03-23-2009, 08:33 PM
$o$o$ucce$$ful

Quote:

Originally Posted by esmordan

idk i think AK gets overplayed sometimes????? maybe this is just anotehr case of this scenerio???

I agree sometimes Ace King is overplayed but this is not one of those times. Top two pair, no flush draws, the straight draw but unless you put him on J10 QQ KK OR AA then you know your good.
So idk i put this down to bad luck.
I really dont see how we could get away from it.
03-23-2009, 08:47 PM
eejit101

Thats where betting patterns make sense, IMO you should lead out the flop, let him raise, as has happened, then reraise on the flop to say 800, if he pushes or reraises, fold. If not, your prolly ahead f he has slow played it perfectly, where upon he deserves to win.
03-23-2009, 08:50 PM
$o$o$ucce$$ful

Quote:

Originally Posted by eejit101

Thats where betting patterns make sense, IMO you should lead out the flop, let him raise, as has happened, then reraise on the flop to say 800, if he pushes or reraises, fold. If not, your prolly ahead f he has slow played it perfectly, where upon he deserves to win.

TBH i think I was outplayed here. I really do. My face lit up when the board came AKQ tbh. I never wouldve put him on 10J and for that reason i think they were going in the middle no matter if he 4-betted the pot or not.
I had him dead set on KQ or AQ, i mean dead dead set. Just the way he called preflop, just everything made sense for AQ, am i wrong in coming to that conclusion?