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GloBug
08-07-2009, 04:00 PM
well ndn i dont know how to quote this so u can deduct chips from me. this is a email i got from my wife and it is very disturbing. this is a new way for kids to get high and u wont even know till something bad happens like it did to this police officer. check it out.


Latest Drug in Middle School - 'Dusting'

First, I'm going to tell you a little about me and my family. My name is Jeff. I am a Police Officer for a city which is known nationwide for it's crime rate. We have a lot of gangs and drugs. At one point we were # 2 in the nation in homicides per capita. I also have a police K-9 named Thor. He was certified in drugs and general duty.. He retired at 3 years old because he was shot in the line of duty. He lives with us now and I still train with him because he likes it. I always liked the fact that there was no way to bring drugs into my house. Thor wouldn't allow it. He would tell on you. The reason I say this is so you understand that I know about drugs.

I have taught in schools about drugs. My wife asks all our kids at least once a week if they used any drugs.

I like building computers occasionally and started building a new one in February 2005. I also was working on some of my older computers. They were full of dust so on one of my trips to the computer store I bought a 3 pack of DUST OFF. Dust Off is a can of compressed air to blow dust off a computer. A few weeks later when I went to use one of them they were all used. I talked to my kids and my two sons both said they had used them on their computer and messing around with them. I yelled at them for wasting the 10 dollars I paid for them.

On February 28 I went back to the computer store. They didn't have the 3 pack which I had bought on sale so I bought a single jumbo can of Dust Off. I went home and set it down beside my computer.

On March 1st, I left for work at 10 PM. Just before midnight my wife went down and kissed Kyle good-night. At 5:30 am the next morning Kathy went downstairs to wake Kyle up for school, before she left for work. He was propped up in bed with his legs crossed and his head leaning over. She called to him a few times to get up. He didn't move. He would sometimes tease her like this and pretend he fell back asleep. He was never easy to get up. She went in and shook his arm. He fell over. He was pale white and had the straw from the Dust Off can coming out of his mouth. He had the new can of Dust Off in his hands. Kyle was dead.

I am a police officer and I had never heard of this. My wife is a nurse and she had never heard of this. We later found out from the coroner, after the autopsy, that only the propellant from the can of Dust off was in his system. No other drugs.. Kyle had died between midnight and 1 AM.

I found out that using Dust Off is being done mostly by kids ages 9 through 15. They even have a name for it. It's called dusting. A take off from the Dust Off name. It gives them a slight high for about 10 seconds. It makes them dizzy. A boy who lives down the street from us showed Kyle how to do this about a month before. Kyle showed his best friend... Told him it was cool and it couldn't hurt you. It's just compressed air. It can't hurt you. His best friend said so.

Kyle was wrong. It's not just compressed air .. It also contains a propellant called R2. It's a refrigerant like what is used in your refrigerator. It is a heavy gas.. Heavier than air. When you inhale it, it fills your lungs and keeps the good air, with oxygen, out. That's why you feel dizzy, buzzed. It decreases the oxygen to your brain, to your heart. IT KILLS YOU.

The horrible part about this is there is no warning. There is no level that kills you. It's not cumulative or an overdose; it can just go randomly, terribly wrong. IT'S NOT AN OVERDOSE . You don't die later. Or not feel good and say I've had too much... You usually die as you're breathing it in. If not you die within 2 seconds of finishing 'the hit.' That 's why the straw was still in Kyle's mouth when he died. Why his eyes were still open. The experts want to call this huffing. The kids don't believe its huffing. And that's why its more accepted. There is no chemical reaction, no strong odor.. It doesn't follow the huffing signals. Kyle complained a few days before he died of his tongue hurting. It probably did. The propellant causes frostbite. If I had only known.

It's easy to say hey, it's my life and I'll do what I want .. But it isn't... Others are always affected. This has forever changed our family's life. I have a hole in my heart and soul that can never be fixed. The pain is so immense I can't describe it.. There's nowhere to run from it. I cry all the time and I don't ever cry. I do what I'm supposed to do but I don't really care. My kids are messed up. One won't talk about it. The other will only sleep in our room at night. And my wife, I can't even describe how bad she is taking this. I thought we were safe because of Thor. I thought we were safe because we knew about t drugs and talked to our kids about them.

After Kyle died another story came out. A probation Officer went to the school system next to ours to speak with a student. While there he found a student using Dust Off in the bathroom. This student told him about another student who also had some in his locker. This is a rather affluent school system. They will tell you they don't have a drug problem there. They don't even have a dare or plus program there. So rather than tell everyone about this 'new' way of getting high they found, they hid it. The probation officer told the media after Kyle's death and they, the school, then admitted to it. I know that if they would have told the media and I had heard, it wouldn't have been in my house.

We need to get this out of our homes and school computer labs.. Using Dust Off isn't new and some 'professionals' do know about. It just isn't talked about much, except by the kids.. They all seem to know about it. April 2 nd was 1 month since Kyle died.. April 5th would have been his 15th birthday. And every weekday I catch myself sitting on the living room couch at 2:30 in the afternoon and waiting to see him get off the bus.


This Officer is asking for everyone who receives this email to forward it to everyone in their address book, even Law Enforcement Officers!

PANAMHIEST
08-07-2009, 04:26 PM
I dont know what to say.... just a terrible story.

A while ago i heard about some kids smoking morning glory seeds, which you get practically anywhere that sells gardening goods. It is supposedly a hullucigen, or however thats spelt, and you can get very high from it, so folks if your into gardening, and have kids, keep an eye on those seeds too.

BnLM5
08-07-2009, 08:16 PM
Thank you GloBug, that is a sad but true story!
Since this has become a problem they have now added a horrible
bitter taste to the cans of compressed air that you buy as dust off.
I know this because the last time I used it some how the air got in my
mouth and It was horrible. So I thought OMG what is this? Is it poison?
Of coarse I read the can and it states on them that the bitter additive
has been added for the very reason of this mans story. It also states that
it is against the law to use for any purpose other than dusting and
is harmful is inhaled, and could cause death. But I couldn't believe it
myself.

Nonetheless not too long ago I went to Wal-mart to get a few things. I or my daughter needed some white out and when we were at the check out the clerk wanted to see an ID as it is a new law that you must be 18 years of age to purchase white out. I was dumbfounded by this and had no idea why so I asked why a person had to be 18 to purchase the white out. And she continued to explain that kids are huffing it and getting high. Wow! Can you believe that?

navuta
08-07-2009, 08:33 PM
I dont know what to say.... just a terrible story.

A while ago i heard about some kids smoking morning glory seeds, which you get practically anywhere that sells gardening goods. It is supposedly a hullucigen, or however thats spelt, and you can get very high from it, so folks if your into gardening, and have kids, keep an eye on those seeds too.

I used refrigerator gas for getting high when I was 17 years old..
That was like ice cold..


I used Morning glory seed already also. .
But not smoking.
Eating..
Much better and worth..
...
If I would post every post people ask me to foward the forum would full of junk just like this one...
Kids can inhale almost everthing to get high...
thats not new..
Iven fart gas can kill u...:)

taylovesthebeatles
08-07-2009, 10:03 PM
Wow yeah this is a new one for me too but honestly kids have been trying to find ways to get high and feel good for years, it's nothing new. How about, instead of trying to protect people from themselves all the time by forcing ID checks and everything else, which makes it harder for legitimate buyers who know exactly what they're buying and how it should be properly used to get the supplies they need, be it office or an actual drug? Wow, what a novel concept! It seems much more beneficial to me in the long run. Sure, we should try to keep harmful substances away from our kids, but we can't protect them from everything. Nor should one person or a few people's stupid misjudgments ruin a perfectly safe product or service from anyone else. That's what truly needs to change, in my opinion.

BnLM5
08-07-2009, 10:41 PM
Wow yeah this is a new one for me too but honestly kids have been trying to find ways to get high and feel good for years, it's nothing new. How about, instead of trying to protect people from themselves all the time by forcing ID checks and everything else, which makes it harder for legitimate buyers who know exactly what they're buying and how it should be properly used to get the supplies they need, be it office or an actual drug? Wow, what a novel concept! It seems much more beneficial to me in the long run. Sure, we should try to keep harmful substances away from our kids, but we can't protect them from everything. Nor should one person or a few people's stupid misjudgments ruin a perfectly safe product or service from anyone else. That's what truly needs to change, in my opinion.

No kidding the problem is brain wires are crossed in this world today about so much considering laws and such. Don't even get me started on the system and how thing are done.

klinkman
08-07-2009, 11:52 PM
You certainly can't prevent everything that can be huffed from coming into kids hands. So rules asking for ID for buying mundane things like white out are stupid, and will do nothing to address the problem.

This story is completely true-snopes investigated it, and everything checks out. Which makes me happy, because so often these are bull****.

navuta
08-08-2009, 08:26 AM
You certainly can't prevent everything that can be huffed from coming into kids hands. So rules asking for ID for buying mundane things like white out are stupid, and will do nothing to address the problem.

This story is completely true-snopes investigated it, and everything checks out. Which makes me happy, because so often these are bull****.
it is not a question of what to sniff..
If u whant you can try to sniff almost everthing to get high, mostly because u are depressed..
I think people should deal with those things more open minded with their kids, like showing than that doing certain thing are really bad to your healh.
Most of the times i sniffed something to get high was because i was bored and had not much expectations about my real wishs..
People need real good friends to show than what to do and what not to do.
And on this age, parents are and must be the best friends possible.

Pokerkitty6
08-08-2009, 11:00 AM
This is not junk!!! This is very useful information for anyone who is around kids. Not all adults know about the new ways for kids to get high. NDN is a site that has educated us on numerous subject and I hope we continue to share useful information. I for one say thank you for this post.

bouks999
08-08-2009, 11:47 AM
i have seen a person dust before it made him crazy and fall over makes you very crazy you just huff it ive never tried it though

PANAMHIEST
08-08-2009, 01:06 PM
You guys need to watch the rise and fall of steve-o. It is usually on mtv at some time or another, and in the show, steve-o has alot of drug problems and just doing flat out crazy stuff. One of his preferred drugs happens to be
CO2, which is some crazy stuff. Just watch the show and youll see what im talking about.

navuta
08-08-2009, 02:01 PM
You guys need to watch the rise and fall of steve-o. It is usually on mtv at some time or another, and in the show, steve-o has alot of drug problems and just doing flat out crazy stuff. One of his preferred drugs happens to be
CO2, which is some crazy stuff. Just watch the show and youll see what im talking about.
CO2?????
u joking...
co2 dont make u high..
it just make dizzy and faint..
no way...

PANAMHIEST
08-08-2009, 02:13 PM
CO2?????
u joking...
co2 dont make u high..
it just make dizzy and faint..
no way...

Oh man you gotta see this show. The CO2 canisters really screwed him up good. I have never heard of this, bu it is really wild what it did to the guy. In one scene it show steve-o going into convulsions and just wacked out stuff dude. A must see show. you might be able to find it online: "The rise and fall of steve-o"

navuta
08-08-2009, 02:17 PM
I will try to find it!
I think hes most preffered drug must be cannabis..
as he has a tatto of a canabis plant on his arms..

PANAMHIEST
08-08-2009, 02:21 PM
I will try to find it!
I think hes most preffered drug must be cannabis..
as he has a tatto of a canabis plant on his arms..

Oh ya pot is one of his regular deals. In one scene he was talking to a cop with a joint hanging behind his ear, and the cop didnt even really do anything. How insane is that???

GloBug
08-08-2009, 03:13 PM
well everyone i posted this just to those of us that have kids n the age range. if u have to research it to see if it is BS then dont read it or reply. most of u dont have kids so u dont understand things like this. talking to klinkman. kinda irritated by your post. well fk it . anyways to those u who do have kids make sure u be safe.

taylovesthebeatles
08-08-2009, 04:36 PM
well everyone i posted this just to those of us that have kids n the age range. if u have to research it to see if it is BS then dont read it or reply. most of u dont have kids so u dont understand things like this. talking to klinkman. kinda irritated by your post. well fk it . anyways to those u who do have kids make sure u be safe.

Glo I don't think he was trying to hurt anyone by checking out the validity of the story. You hear all kinds of crazy things happening to people of all ages, and when it's something out of the ordinary, you gotta check it out sometimes. I don't think that has anything to do with whether you have kids or not- I know I'd want to protect someone of any age, especially a kid, and I know he'd do the same. It's just something he never heard before and thought it strange, there's a lot of things like that that get posted out there (in emails, not on the forum) that turn out to be BS. That's all. He's not saying he wouldn't put his kids or anyone else's kids first.

BruceJ
08-08-2009, 04:41 PM
I spent my time in rehab-it was alcohol. Alot different. It is good that you have let this be known. I talk to alot of people about substance abuse and never heard of it either. Now when I am asked to talk this WILL be part of what i tell others. Thank you.
P.S. Navuta, if ya wanta get high, it will be a little or alot. short or long-dont matter how or how long it lasts-trust me-been there, done that. Here and in Country.

navuta
08-08-2009, 04:54 PM
Thanks tay... u were right..
Thank u for the explanation..
and bruce.. I dont want to get hight anymore at all.
If I want to get high i will meditate...
Anyway.. im wacthing the movie of the jackass Steve-O's ...
Im on the 3 of 7 movie..
Down Hill From Here? | Video | MTV

Nice... one thing is being addicted and doing lots of nice things.. lots of different things everyday.. other is being an adictted doing nothing everyday....

navuta
08-08-2009, 04:59 PM
He was addicted to Nitrous oxide, commonly known as happy gas or laughing gas, is a chemical compound with the chemical formula N2O

It seans to be normal to use it on USA..
I never used it..
Has anyone tryied it?

PANAMHIEST
08-08-2009, 05:35 PM
He was addicted to Nitrous oxide, commonly known as happy gas or laughing gas, is a chemical compound with the chemical formula N2O

It seans to be normal to use it on USA..
I never used it..
Has anyone tryied it?

Ya thats what it is, thanks for clearing that up for me. Had no clue what the heck he was doing, but looked like the CO2 canisters that they have at the paintball ranges.

GloBug
08-08-2009, 05:41 PM
Ya thats what it is, thanks for clearing that up for me. Had no clue what the heck he was doing, but looked like the CO2 canisters that they have at the paintball ranges.



he was using whip its. well thats what they call it. they are the canisters that are used in paint ball guns and bb guns.

BnLM5
08-09-2009, 01:09 AM
well everyone i posted this just to those of us that have kids n the age range. if u have to research it to see if it is BS then dont read it or reply. most of u dont have kids so u dont understand things like this. talking to klinkman. kinda irritated by your post. well fk it . anyways to those u who do have kids make sure u be safe.

GloBug I think Klinkman was saying thank you that you shared a good true story. And that normally these stories are a bunch of crap, (which I agree normally they are.) But when he checked it out on Snopes.com that he found it to be true. So he was thanking you for it. I think you misunderstood. :)

BnLM5
08-09-2009, 01:35 AM
he was using whip its. well thats what they call it. they are the canisters that are used in paint ball guns and bb guns.

Yes they were using whip its, they are little canisters made and used for baking purposes. Or used for whip cream chargers. I have seen people inhale them. They use a special device to open them and they put a balloon over the top and inhale the nitrous oxide (nitrous oxide is what dentist use and call happy gas, but they mix it with oxygen) it makes them high. I have seen people fall to the ground after inhaling it. I have never tried it. Falling to the ground stupid does not look fun to me. Nor does it look safe.

The other canisters of CO2 look very close to the whip its but the CO2 canisters are used for paint ball guns and bb guns and such. CO2 is one carbon and Two oxygen which is the chemical formula of carbon dioxide a colorless odorless gas that we breath out of our lung on exhale.

GloBug
08-09-2009, 01:50 AM
well i just figured he would give me the benefit of the doubt that i checked on it myself. i googled and it showed. well what ever my bad.

BnLM5
08-09-2009, 03:25 AM
well i just figured he would give me the benefit of the doubt that i checked on it myself. i googled and it showed. well what ever my bad.

I see what you are saying. But honestly I always check stuff out on snopes.com too especially if I am going to write about it. I am sure it was not meant personal at all. And thanks again for the info. Such as sad story to have to tell though, and to think that they still can't get people and kids to understand how dangerous it really is.