Poker society had no respect to Stu Ungar.

[navuta]

hey, I´ve watching some movies of Stu Ungar, and Im really sad to know how the best poker player ever (not may option only), was soo dissed by ESPN and by other players also. But how ESPN would make ungly stupid fun out of hime was just too much for me. What they think they can do just to spoil iven more the life of a drug addicted he was. WOuld they be jelous and think it was not a fair game because of his use of narcotics?

On both of this two movies 1/2 and 2/2
ESPN makes jojes of Stu Ungar like pretending he was dead already...
Thats pisses me off.

His playing is just brilhant I think.

YouTube - WSOP 1997 Final Table Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBtryg3S-yA&feature=PlayList&p=0C9355B154EB8B31&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=78)

[sloeddie]

it may be a case of the ' you have it and i will never get close enough to touch it, let alone own it syndrome.'.he had an awfull lot of things going for him. being at the right place at the right time where as a lot of us get there but either too late or too early. also his attitude on life. from what i have read ,,he never had to play poker and a lot of times he played because he was asked by friends and strangers some with motives of thier own true enough and to see this in another person it isn't hard for me to see where anyone who could never become a person like that ,would become pissed and find any reason to diss him your right it doesn't make it right but it does happen. and yes he played some great poker!!!

[0maxpower0]

thats a pretty sad case... especially because i pretty much watch sportcenter everyday, since i was like 12. Regardless of his abilities and acclaim as a poker player, to speak of anyone like youre saying they spoke of him is wrong. Unger storty is incredible, despoite the fact that he did some drugs. my god, he got staked for the world series after he lost all of his money doing whatever he did, and then he won it. His back waws against the wall, all the odds were aginst him, and everyone he was spirtuality and fate and all that, but he was supposed to win, sometimes things just work out exactly the way they should.. Too often people on the outside make stupid comments not trying to understand the intricacies of what had happened, instead just to judge. Unger, despite his shortcomings, did some great things, and at the very least a lot can be learned from his story and his life. Its sad that its boiled down to cheap shots at a man who has/had some demons... might not be the best role model, but like every life, there is ALWAYS SOMETHING TO LEARN!!

[GloBug]

well u ask phil helmuth and doyle and johnie chan who was the best player when he was playing and they would say stu was. espn is just hating on him because of his drug problem. whatever if he was a live i think he would have like 15 bracelets.

[navuta]

YEs. nice that u all understood how bad ESPN could be for his image. They were not helping him at all at any time. I think the image they passed could not help him get better but only make him more and more into depression. Iven his daughter trying to "help" said she did not whant to talk with him unless he stoped snorting... That was very cruel form her part I think, and that all happend because of this ugly image that "society" that didnt kwew him well has created for him.
Off course he was surrounded since childhood with abusses and execces of all type, thats why his father was so worried.
Anyway.. I also thinks that all this pressure made him a better poker player. He had to prove to everybody he was good. Because by himself, he knew he was.

He was just a poker player.
Not bad, not good, just a lost soul searching for asnwers.
I think He had might have found a lot of then.
:)

[allinking17]

I dont think that they are purposefully "making fun" at him. From what i saw on someo f the specials on him ( i thought they were epsn) it seemed that they were just explaining what he went through in his life. Instead of making fun of him i bet they were just trying to push hard on the fact that drugs are horrible in every way. They put someone in a black hole like stu fell into. So once again i dont think it was an attack, more of a warning to anyone watching that this was a lifestyle that you most likely do not want to be involved with, even if you think that his life (winning the WSOP) was a dream come true.

[navuta]

I dont think that they are purposefully "making fun" at him. From what i saw on someo f the specials on him ( i thought they were epsn) it seemed that they were just explaining what he went through in his life. Instead of making fun of him i bet they were just trying to push hard on the fact that drugs are horrible in every way. They put someone in a black hole like stu fell into. So once again i dont think it was an attack, more of a warning to anyone watching that this was a lifestyle that you most likely do not want to be involved with, even if you think that his life (winning the WSOP) was a dream come true.

Im talking specificaly about ESPN on the video link I seed to you.
The reposter iven says to him: "you dont know how to play poker".
The other says... Im poor... But Im aliveeeeee... Im poor but Im aliveeeee
And at another shot, the camera zoom in into nothing and someone says on the video.. Stue?.... stue?.... stue?..... like he could not see him, and him could not listem to him...
Anyway... TV = Fake reality

[allinking17]

I aplologize, it didnt even look like it was a link. You are right on your post.

[DINGO8MYBABY]

There were some people who tried to help Ungar, people like Billy Baxter and Mike Sexton, but there is only so much you can do for a person. Stuey was an addict, and most addicts don't want help/change, but as someone (I think it was TJ Cloutier) said if Ungar had known that there were going to be 10K buy-ins as frequently as there are today he would have cleaned up to play all that poker. As for ESPN, they're full of crap anyway.

[navuta]

I dont think he would stop for all those 10K buy -ins off today.
He needed more than money..
more than prestige.
He needed only be the best on something.
And he chossed poker.
:)