I Miss Poker - Guess My Hand!

[eejit101]

Background. Ive played 4 hands so far. 10min Levels. Hands Ive played have not gone to show down or flop. Won all preflop. No reads on other players.

Hand#28129FC84F000348 - $3,000 Guaranteed R&A T10471503 -- CASH -- $10 + $1 -- 10 Max -- Table 1 -- 0/50/100 NL Hold'em -- 2011/12/17 - 23:46:46
Dealer: Seat 6
Seat 1: JayGray77 (2,100 in chips)
Seat 2: No Love (3,265 in chips)
Seat 3: Dury349 (950 in chips)
Seat 4: BadSelection (2,831 in chips)
Seat 5: HughMoron (6,699 in chips)
Seat 6: DirtyDMTB (5,815 in chips)
Seat 7: rrbin3d (1,950 in chips)
Seat 8: codyni520 (3,000 in chips)
Seat 9: GeoffTheDuck (2,340 in chips)
rrbin3d: posts small blind 50
codyni520: posts big blind 100
Dealt to GeoffTheDuck [Some Hand]
GeoffTheDuck: raises to 215
JayGray77: folds
No Love: folds
Dury349: folds
BadSelection: folds
HughMoron: folds
DirtyDMTB: folds
rrbin3d: calls 165
codyni520: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d,Ac,Tc]
rrbin3d: checks
GeoffTheDuck: bets 250
rrbin3d: calls 250
*** TURN *** [8d]
rrbin3d: checks
GeoffTheDuck: bets 430
rrbin3d: calls 430
*** RIVER *** [Ks]
rrbin3d: checks
GeoffTheDuck: is all in 1,445
rrbin3d: folds
GeoffTheDuck: returns uncalled bet 1,445
***SHOW DOWN***
GeoffTheDuck: mucks
GeoffTheDuck wins 1,890

[woohoosue]

2.5 raise continued aft flop....doubled aft turn ...88 was your hand

[ScareCrowAKA]

queens, one of them being a club

and if he would have bet, u would have folded

lol

[ScareCrowAKA]

He had J9,Q10,910 or a flush draw... if he would have bet, he had K10... I would have checked it on the end, and lost to K4, lol

[eejit101]

I had 55.

Ship :)

[ScareCrowAKA]

the shove, screams, I can only win this by shoving... but he obviously didnt have the ace, so i would have done it... Live, not online... cuz its rigged... online he has K10, and check calls on the end

[eejit101]

The shove screams "i can only win this by shoving" if you suck. That was my issue. Higher up youll end up with "he is shoving as he wants a call", then even higher its "he is shoving as he wants it to look like he wants a call". I figured this guy was playing his cards, and missed his draw. No way he 3 check traps me.

[woohoosue]

and rebuy had something to do with your play ...what was buyin ....slick.oooops saw 10 huh ok big spender.

[woohoosue]

just admit ity....you miss low stakes play with us.....and Glow bug does too. you miss us...say it!

[eejit101]

$10 is low. And annoying low.

And i didnt have a rebuy.

[ScareCrowAKA]

lol obviously, but I would think he would have to put u on a pair lower than a ace there, w no kind of reads or image factor involved; which I still say is the only "skill" that is involed in poker/ and dont see how that comes into play online, cuz playing agressive vs cautious players and 4th grade fraction math, are not skills... its more of a "betting system"

online poker "skills" to me seem mostly like bankroll management, and the developemnt of a "intuition", which doesnt really apply here

[eejit101]

I disagree.

Firstly, as I can make reads online, very accurately. NDN should (I hope) back me up on that, Ive called countless hands spot on (or very close) by reading time, betting patterns, and previous plays.

However there are issues on the play itself. But i do think I had an ace folding there, depending on the level of player.

[ScareCrowAKA]

ya pattern recognition (betting and play) I will conceed as well, I just never consider that, cuz that can be faked... if someone plays the same hands and situations everytime, exactly the same... they are retarded

[eejit101]

No, not the same each time, but look for signs across different hands.

[ScareCrowAKA]

I get what ur saying, and I respect ur opinion, cuz u by far far know online poker much better than I do...

Im guessing my strengths are reading body language and giving off body "fake" language, and thats why I am a decent live player and about a breakeven online player.

I would be curious to see how I would play against a good online player, live... cuz I usually do well againt the guys, that talk about how they win online, but u never know if they are telling the truth or not.

but who knows, the reason I may win live is because I grind, like really hardcore, lol... know win to leave... even if I sit there for 4 hrs and made 5 bucks a hr... if its a table im at, I know is a 50/50 table, I have no problem taking my 20$ and going.

... and 5$ is the extreme low example, but ive done it before... and I know everyone says this, but I havnt been down for a mo. in like over a yr... but the most I have been up for the mo. is 800... average, prob about 300 im guessing

I play like 4-8xs a mo off and on, between 3 diff. casinos

[eejit101]

I play cash games live 100x better than cash games online. But i play tourneys online 100x better than live. As the stats show!

Hmmm.

[ScareCrowAKA]

really...

maybe there is something to that then...

I play off and on online, but I hardly ever play tournaments... maybe I should start, and not play cash online anymore... seems to be worth more for the money anyways that way... its just the only place I can play as a american is intertops or bodog, and most there tourneys suck... or u have to wait to get into them...

cash games u just log in and play...

i need to start budgeting better though, ive been pretty much losing everything I win live online for the last few months, I will get it up some then go on a massive bad streak, take a break and repeat... I was writing it off as horrible luck, but there is no way my luck is that bad.

I dont fully trust intertops software either.

[eejit101]

Stop blaming the software. Intertops is huge

[NDN]

I disagree.

Firstly, as I can make reads online, very accurately. NDN should (I hope) back me up on that, Ive called countless hands spot on (or very close) by reading time, betting patterns, and previous plays.

However there are issues on the play itself. But i do think I had an ace folding there, depending on the level of player.

I can only say that Eejit101 is one of those "push blind" and get lucky kind of players.

[eejit101]

Mmhmm. The above is so true it hurts.

[ScareCrowAKA]

I can only say that Eejit101 is one of those "push blind" and get lucky kind of players.

thats all the hyper aggresive stragety is... win most the time cuz people fold, get bad players to make bad calls, even the odds against good players by shoving-thus making the game mostly mathematical, by pricing yourself into the odds to hit.

[eejit101]

Yeah i dont do that.

[ScareCrowAKA]

lol ... I do when I dont give a fuhck :coolgleamA:

[NDN]

What the hell.

First I try to put Eejit101 down by saying he plays blindly and without reason.

Then ScareCrow somehow twists that so it seems like I was actually complimenting his style.

Then Eejit101 refuses to take the now twisted compliment and admits he's a donk.

Then ScareCrow posts a reply that basically contradicts his initial twisting of my put down!

What the **** is this ****?

[eejit101]

I rock at poker. I pwn u all. PWN I SAY