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    Wink Deep Stack Touney thoughts, do you agree?

    These are 3 things I would like to pay more attention to when playing in a Deep or Double Stacked tournament (specially Deep Stacks with longer blind levels):

    1) Position

    Everybody always talks about the importance of position while playing poker, but when you are in a MTT with deep stacks, it becomes even more important. If you play tournaments online, you will often be in situations where the blinds are big realitive to the stack sizes, and it becomes a preflop game where you are taking most pots down preflop, but with deep stacks it is a different game, position will let you play more creatively, trapping and drawing with a wide variety of hands.

    2) Bluffing becomes more difficult

    When trying to bluff in a short stacked game you put alot of pressure on you opponents, because they have less room for error, and don't have as wide of a selection of starting hands. In deep stack MTT players have room to splash around into many pots, as their range for starting hands gets wider, and their implied odds get greater. They are not risking as big of a percentage of their stack to play those suited connectors or draw to the flush. So when bluffing or stealing blinds in a deep stacked game, do so carefully and have a good read on your opponents.

    3) Building bigger pots

    In a deep stack event most pots wont affect your stack greatly, so you need to build the pots up. That means betting out on the flop with good hands, trying to get your opponent's chips into the pot any chance you can. Four-betting is going to be an option when you have a large stack. People will be more willing to steal pots if their stacks have some room for error, so trust your reads. Semi-bluffing becomes more valuable and should be used more frequently. When making a semi-bluff you are giving yourself a chance to win the pot right there, and giving yourself the potential to win a bigger pot if you connect. (Like semi-bluffing draws)

    4) Hand values change

    When playing with deep stacks hand values decrease, expecially preflop. Your AJ has a good chance of winning the pot preflop with a raise if you are playing in a short stack game, but more people will be likely to call a raise with Q9 ect. if they have a larger stack. So now your AJ is most likely going to have to hit the flop to take down the pot. Although your AJ and A10 values decrease your suited connectors and small pocket pairs have greater values. The reason that suited connectors and pocket pairs have greater values is because if you hit the flop and have trips, flush, straights ect. you have the potential to win a larger number of chips. But be careful! Big stacks will call you down!


    Anyone have any other tip worth using on deep stack tourneys?

    I am planning on playing one of these at least once a week. The 30 min blinds make you be more patient

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    BLAH, turbo games thats for working peeps lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilred36 View Post
    BLAH, turbo games thats for working peeps lol.
    LMAO, yeah I know, but to do it one sunday all day would not hurt

    Get maybe more out of the buy in, LOL

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    I like the deepstack games. They usually cost more and that helps keep out the really bad donks. Also you are right it takes patient, but the rewards are great. I have also found that during the week is better than the weekend.

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    Thanks a lot for your opinion GaTechMom

    Also take the chance to congratulate you guys on kicking Florida State's azz yesterday en route to your first victory over them

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    I agree with both of you, but those long tourneys hurt my back.I love any grtd tourney tho, I however love those donks! Most of the time.

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    Hahahaha, yeah the "turbo gamble" is cool, I love it too

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    Thanks USCTrojans was guite a game. First time they have beaten them since 1975.

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    Yeah, I had GATech on a teaser +8 pts and was happy to see them win

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    My best tip for a Deepstack Tourney is to play ABC poker.

    From experience play in these tourney's (unless big buy in, eg Sunday Mill) is a lot looser then in a normal stack games. Sounds odd but its definately true.

    When your sitting there with 300 BB a 3 x BB raise is not likely to put you off playing 75s. these are the sorts of situations i like to avoid. Playing marginal hands. Im quite happy to sit back and wait for hands to come my way. Worst thing that can happen is that you fold for an hour and still be sitting with maybe 50 to 100BB. Eventually cards do come your way.

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    Great comments Ed, I like your style of play

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    I hate to disagree (thats a lie) but i do

    THe point of deep stack is to increase the play at the tables. blinds of 25/50 and stacks of 15,000 chips is basically a gift for you to play low suited connectors, A rag suited, KT, 7 9 , that kind of thing. The only problem you have is if you show down too many of these hands, in which case your image goes, and you get people to "donkify" you, which in my game means they dont like you and will try to take you out. This is the situation when you wait for a bigger hand, as most players wont realise a change in your game in such a short space of time, and thats when you aggressively beat the crap out of the rest of the table.

    I play deep stack live games, ill mix it up in spurts of tight agressive, then loose aggressive, just to keep things funky.

    Position is important, but as you have more chips, it makes less of a difference, i see no harm in flat calling with 200 BB's from 3rd position with T7s, it'll deter raisers in late position with mediocre hands.



    And if any of you doubt this - trust in me:p

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    Oh no dont get me wrong, I agree the deep stack gives you more chance of playing less good hands for a great value as long as you are in a decent position as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edshez View Post
    My best tip for a Deepstack Tourney is to play ABC poker.

    From experience play in these tourney's (unless big buy in, eg Sunday Mill) is a lot looser then in a normal stack games. Sounds odd but its definately true.

    When your sitting there with 300 BB a 3 x BB raise is not likely to put you off playing 75s. these are the sorts of situations i like to avoid. Playing marginal hands. Im quite happy to sit back and wait for hands to come my way. Worst thing that can happen is that you fold for an hour and still be sitting with maybe 50 to 100BB. Eventually cards do come your way.
    i have to agree
    at least we hope cards gonna show up

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    nah, you can win a tourney having to only show down 1 hand - the trick is if your card dead of making sure people know you are, so when u do get bored and raise with 4 5 suited, and miss completely, a continuation bet takes it down anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit101 View Post
    nah, you can win a tourney having to only show down 1 hand - the trick is if your card dead of making sure people know you are, so when u do get bored and raise with 4 5 suited, and miss completely, a continuation bet takes it down anyway
    Well said eejit, not often but I agree with ya there

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